Originally posted by 2kitties
But People! NONE OF THIS MATTERS!!! The United States is a Constitution free OF and free FROM Religion. Religious arguments do NOT apply to this.

What if, for instance, the government of the US decided to follow Christian rules. Well a big ole see ya to Jewish Americans, Muslim Americans, Pagan Americans, Athiest Americans, etc. And all the way around. Our country can't and should not be lawed by a religion. These arguments are all religious. A church or synagog or whatever can refuse to marry a gay if they want (but you'll find if you look around that many churches are finding it in their faiths to embrace homosexuals). But the government can't.

All the religious arguments in this thread are beautiful and of deep conviction. Poppy, I know in my heart that you believe completly in everything you say and to you it is truth- same for Kevin and the rest. But the fact is, they are YOUR truths. You can't impose them on everyone. You can't speak to me as if they are certanity because MY truths are different than YOUR truths. Why can't we all learn to accept this?

Look around you at non-secular governments. They fall. Their countries are in tourmoil and they will never be peaceful. Why? Because Religion is too volatile. It is personal and should be between a person and their God- not in the laws of a nation. There are too many faiths in the US for that kind of ruling. I do not want to live under a religious government. EVER. They always fail and they always oppress members of their society.
I understand what you're saying, but when the government shouldn't be able to force the ban of gay marriages on people, why can they force the ban of marriages between relatives? Why is that ok? They are BOTH religiously immoral. Why is one ok and not the other? That is my question. They can both be said as wrong from a scientific point of view, but.....what happened to freedom of choice, when it comes to this issue?