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[aly]

Very good points, Laura. I was hoping you'd chime in

Originally posted by KBlaix
They are simply miss-led and lost, like most of you.

I support gay marriage and am not misled, nor lost.

[Uabassoon]

Very good points, Laura. I was hoping you'd chime in

I usually try to stay away from these thread as much as possible.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by aly



I support gay marriage and am not misled, nor lost.

Aren't those GPS things the best?

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by aly
Very good points, Laura. I was hoping you'd chime in




I support gay marriage and am not misled, nor lost.

Ditto on both comments!


LMAO, Richard!

[Rottieluver45]

Wow! I`ve never had such a popular thread!!

Richard. Richard, Richard, Richard! You made me look at this in a completely different way! Thanks!! You`re right with out god there would be absolutley NO argument, at all! People say it`s a sin.

Is it a sin when you marry the one you love. That`s all it is. Just with the same sex. It`s not a sin!!! What`s so sinful? That`s the only part I`m not understanding now.

I respect the opinions of others but I just don`t understand them.

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by Rottieluver45
Wow! I`ve never had such a popular thread!!

Richard. Richard, Richard, Richard! You made me look at this in a completely different way! Thanks!! You`re right with out god there would be absolutley NO argument, at all! People say it`s a sin.

Is it a sin when you marry the one you love. That`s all it is. Just with the same sex. It`s not a sin!!! What`s so sinful? That`s the only part I`m not understanding now.

I respect the opinions of others but I just don`t understand them.

But my friend, if there were no God, there would be no humans either, because there would have been no creator, so no humans, no animals, no world, no nothing. Now wouldn't that be a peaceful world? It wouldn't be a world at all. He he he

[Rottieluver45]

oops I 0think I was missunderstood.

I meant if there was no -god- issue. The issue with god being "disappointed"

Ya know what I`m talking about?

[Twisterdog]

He wasn't saved. If you're not saved God can't answer you. Going to church for 25 years doesn't get you into heaven. The only way into heaven is through Jesus.

Oh my, you're a piece of work, aren't you?

You have never met this person, never had a conversation with him ... how do you propose to know if he was "saved" or not? Did God tell you this? No one knows this information but God and this person ... I highly doubt you are privy to God's private ledger.

I did not say he "went to church" for 25 years. I am well aware of the fact that "going to church for 25 years doesn't get you into heaven" ... that's quite a no-brainer. I said he was a devout Christian and that he prayed every day for 25 years. BIG difference in that, and just showing up for church once a week.

You have just exhibited the infamous, right-wing, fundamental Christian fallacy ... "I know it all about everyone all the time, and I have the right to tell everyone what they think and how they feel and why they do things. Hallelujah. Amen."

And this ... "If you're not saved God can't answer you." Really? Interesting. Says who? Again ... if you are going to state "facts", you'd better be ready to back them up. Or maybe we read from two different Bibles? My God is a forgiving, kind, loving God. I'm not sure we are worshipping the same one.

[Fox-Gal]

Doesn't it all come down to just a few simple things.

It was Bush that said no gay's shall marry, right? Now does Bush have the right to judge peoples belifes or should that be left to God? I say leave it in Gods hands, when the time comes. If you belive different, so be it.

Maybe being gay in a sin, I can't say that for sure but what I can say is that everyone has the right to love another and no one should tell them they are wrong for loving another.

How much different is it then when I married a man 18 years younger then me, I was told that it was sick and wrong. Why, because they said so? Who where they to judge my love? So I ask who are we to judge the love that gay's have? Not me or you or even Bush. Give everyone the same rights, isn't that what the United States, foundation was based on?

We each have our own views on a lot of things in life, we should be big enough to accept that in each other. Just as some here said, their mind won't be changed then respect that others wont be changed also. Encluding the Gays.

Let God sort it out and let us just accept EVERY human being for what and who they are. Just picture what a better place this would be if we did.

[RICHARD]

what a great thread.

My 'god' is a god of understanding and love....

he is a god of trees, air, sunrises, smiles on a baby's face.............
my god is laughter, problems, results and clouds, rain and breathing..

My god is taxes, bills, a problem, heartache and sorrow.
He is a god of tears and my pets......
My god is stars, galaxies and things I do not understand.

My god is hope, despair and my voice.

I am my god and you are gods to me.

My god is belief and my accepting your god.

In the past 'gods' were used as a crusade, an inquisition and the trials of people thought to be evil.

My god is looking at you, seeing you are the same, but different, and my god tells me that you are right for your beliefs.

My god tells me that you are right.........

My god is everything yours is, except..................

My god loves you no matter what.


I don't know who my god is, he doesn't have a name or a book written about him............

He is a god of tolerance and a god of acceptance.

And sometimes I wonder why he has taken me under his hand.

My god is my breathe, my heart beat and my god is the ability to see good in everything around me.


Who is your god?

[micki76]

My god is the God of the Bible, God of Abraham, Joseph, Moses & Jesus. He is understanding and loving. He made me imperfect. He doesn’t hate me if I sin, because he created me a sinner. If I wasn’t a sinner, I’d be perfect and only God can be perfect. Therefore, I am a sinner. I need to repent these sins & try not to commit them again, but it will happen because I’m a sinner. Confusing, but very simple. He doesn’t hate me for who I am. This is my God. Yours may be different.

But, my God doesn’t love me any less for my sins that it commit. He loves me simply because I’m his child. It’s an unconditional love and though I may disappoint him a lot with my sins, he’s still my Father. He doesn’t hate anyone.

Now, I personally don’t care if someone sins, I still love them just like God loves me. I don’t always agree with them, but I still don’t hate them. There are some sins IMO that are greater than others. To me lying is to me a much lesser sin than child molestation and murder. I can only believe that God feels the same way.

I don’t know (or for that matter, really care) if homosexuality is a sin. I know many, many gay people and quite a few of them are better people than a lot of ‘Christians’ that I know. I also know many good Christians and some bad gays. There are good and bad people in any walk of life. Your job is as a fellow human being is to love them and try to respect them. Leave the rest to God if you believe in Him.

I think if there’s going to be a separation of church and state, then it must be totally separate. You can’t pick and choose to use the church at your whim.

Our Fathers created this country for freedom. One reason was that their religion had been persecuted by the Queen of England. They came here to create a place where everyone could practice their religion freely. That obviously doesn’t mean that Christian beliefs belong anywhere in the Government anymore than Pagan beliefs or Jewish beliefs. Yes, the country was originally based on a certain religious groups’ set of beliefs, but that group wanted religious freedom for all. I think they would be rolling over if they realized that we were using their Constitution in the way we’re trying to use it these days.

Religious freedom means that our country is not based on the laws of one religion’s beliefs and that we can believe anything we choose to believe. We must uphold our freedoms or we will become the country our forefathers left behind.

[2kitties]

Originally posted by micki76
Religious freedom means that our country is not based on the laws of one religion’s beliefs and that we can believe anything we choose to believe. We must uphold our freedoms or we will become the country our forefathers left behind.

^^^what she said^^^

[primabella]

Originally posted by micki76
My god is the God of the Bible, God of Abraham, Joseph, Moses & Jesus. He is understanding and loving. He made me imperfect. He doesn’t hate me if I sin, because he created me a sinner. If I wasn’t a sinner, I’d be perfect and only God can be perfect. Therefore, I am a sinner. I need to repent these sins & try not to commit them again, but it will happen because I’m a sinner. Confusing, but very simple. He doesn’t hate me for who I am. This is my God. Yours may be different.

But, my God doesn’t love me any less for my sins that it commit. He loves me simply because I’m his child. It’s an unconditional love and though I may disappoint him a lot with my sins, he’s still my Father. He doesn’t hate anyone.

Now, I personally don’t care if someone sins, I still love them just like God loves me. I don’t always agree with them, but I still don’t hate them. There are some sins IMO that are greater than others. To me lying is to me a much lesser sin than child molestation and murder. I can only believe that God feels the same way.

I don’t know (or for that matter, really care) if homosexuality is a sin. I know many, many gay people and quite a few of them are better people than a lot of ‘Christians’ that I know. I also know many good Christians and some bad gays. There are good and bad people in any walk of life. Your job is as a fellow human being is to love them and try to respect them. Leave the rest to God if you believe in Him.

I think if there’s going to be a separation of church and state, then it must be totally separate. You can’t pick and choose to use the church at your whim.

Our Fathers created this country for freedom. One reason was that their religion had been persecuted by the Queen of England. They came here to create a place where everyone could practice their religion freely. That obviously doesn’t mean that Christian beliefs belong anywhere in the Government anymore than Pagan beliefs or Jewish beliefs. Yes, the country was originally based on a certain religious groups’ set of beliefs, but that group wanted religious freedom for all. I think they would be rolling over if they realized that we were using their Constitution in the way we’re trying to use it these days.

Religious freedom means that our country is not based on the laws of one religion’s beliefs and that we can believe anything we choose to believe. We must uphold our freedoms or we will become the country our forefathers left behind.

Agreed. Very well said Micki.

[CathyBogart]

"An' ye harm none, do what ye will"

...Thought I'd throw out a quote from MY religion because I'm starting to get a bit uncomfortable with this thread.

[RICHARD]

Going on, right above my head, my god is having a grand old time.

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/showcase/text.shtml


So why are we, down here, worried about who is married to who?