Well, Troy, I was going to refute your position by dredging up the old well-known fact that feral cats generally live to only about two years old, so they obviously don't do will on their own. Then I saw Spencer's post refuting that fact. But, really, I guess unless someone starts tagging and tracking feral cats it's really only an educated guess. But I don't think anyone can argue the fact that feral cats are a problem, even to cat lovers. Not only do they contribute to the population problem, they are a nuisance when they spray around homes, get into garbage (because they don't all know how to hunt-that's a learned behavior taught by the mother), fight domestic pets, etc. And they may pose a slight rabies risk in areas where this disease is a problem. The area I live in has always been an active rabies site, and last year it was so severe it was showing up in domestic animals. I know this problem will never be solved, but the key to mitigating it is education, and although I'm largely preaching to the choir in this forum, there are many visitors to this site everyday who never post, and I would hate to think that an opportunity to educate would pass unused. Now look, I've gotten on my soapbox again!