I love the "old man body" remark! I know exactly what you mean and it depends on their position as to whether it shows or not. (human & cat) Let's just say that if Tubby were human you would not want to go to the beach and see him in Speedo's!!!(sp) I have one of those at home myself (human and cat)!!! Sammy is sloppy fat looking in some positions but looks firm and fit in others. I think I'll just drop it now and leave hubby out of this now...