Wow, I'd not heard that they did animal testing. That would be horrible. Where did you hear that? I used to only feed Nutro, but, several vets I've spoken to, including the one I've been going to for years, told me it's way too rich, and, it's one of the foods that they are completely against. I was really surprised to hear that. But, I feed homemade stuff now, anyway. But, their response was pretty vague and definitely side stepping. Hmmm... Are you going to try the number they gave you?