Thanks for the support. We are slowly getting them to the point where they don't immediately take off when they see us. And we are 99% positive one of the "larger" cats is their mom 'cause the kittens look like little carbon copies of her. Another suggestion I recieved was tot ry to borrow a trap from the local animal control. But I don't want to call them if I can avoid it. I would rather they didn't know about this. WOuldn't want them coming out just to trap and destroy. Going to give it our very best shot. One of our guys was all curled up on the couch last night, blanket tucked around him...I told my husband I was going to take a picture, blow it up, put the caption "This could be you!" on it and hang it in the window