thanks a lot for all of your input. I might try to start crate training Boomer some time this year As for paying for my own flight/flying seperatly, that just wouldn't work If I stayed around on the base waiting for a "hop" (military plane with a seat or two to spare) there's no guarantee that it'd be a plane that would allow Boomer. Not to mention that waiting for a hop to a certain location could take weeks of shopping up at the airport packed and ready to go at 4 am. I can't fly out commercially simply because there's no way to get Boomer out to Narita International Airport. The base shuttle does not allow pets, and neither do the cab companies. And seeing as it can be about a 3 hour drive I don't think there would be people chomping at the bit to drive me out there, assuming I was able to get a flight that allowed pets. *sigh* I will definately try the crate training, but if it goes anything like the harness training is going it could be a long, hard road Thanks a lot