Another newbie here, jumping in. I agree (and have witnessed) with Leslie's mention of the horrid shelter we've dealt with in the past. It has been mis-managed for too many years to the point that many cats have sat in cages unable to excersise for years! Forget about the MSPCA etc. they've been there, and done nothing more than say "get the numbers down". I do extensive rescuing and socializing of kittens, but there are instances where the TNR doesn't work. Some of the neighborhoods are filled with persons (if that's what they are) that would do all they can to see the released cat is tormented and killed. It can only work where the cats are wanted, and provided with food etc. P.S Styrofoam coolers (thrown out by many larger vet clinics) make much better shelter for cats that have to survive bitter winters. Cut a small hole just under the lid, seal the raw edges w.duct tape, tape the lid down and stick your hand inside and feel the warmth that the cats will return back to their bodies! Make sure it's situated in a dry area. If a neighborhood is willing to allow these ferals back that's one thing, but as we know people move, new managers buy property, and it's the cats hanging around that get the boot. I think it's high time that apt building owners, etc. step up to the plate and make sure that renters pets are altered etc. before they move and dump out un-spayed Fluffy, and un-neutered Smokey and voila...more feral kittens. Ranting....