thanx for all the great ideas. i will try tonight to keep her up so maybe she will start getting tired by the time i go to bed. if i could get another kitten i would so the one i have now will have another kitten to play with but i already have a hamster a dog the kitten & an adult kitten & it is hard enough keeping up with all of them. i tried letting my older cat play with the kitten but i dont think he likes the idea of a new cat being in 'his' house