Downloading Music

[tikeyas_mom]

Originally posted by Dogz
IT IS STEALING. But whatever Jynelle.

I dont think it is, I am not TAKING anything, and My parents dont care lol. But whatever Emma

[Dogz]

Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
I dont think it is, I am not TAKING anything, and My parents dont care lol. But whatever Emma

Ugh. You are TAKING music without paying for it. That IS stealing. Get it through your head.

I give up though.

[babolaypo65]

I sense that we've beaten this topic dead.

[tikeyas_mom]

Originally posted by Dogz
Ugh. You are TAKING music without paying for it. That IS stealing. Get it through your head.

I give up though.

I am paying for it, I am paying for the blank cd, and the internet so uh!

[Dogz]

Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
I am paying for it, I am paying for the blank cd, and the internet so uh!

Like I said on AIM: but the people that MAKE the cds, don't get any money out of this.
So it is stealing from THEM. If you get sued, I could care less. If you don't think so, I don't care.

[babolaypo65]

Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
I am paying for it, I am paying for the blank cd, and the internet so uh!

...and neither of those fees go to the people who made the music.

Okay, I'm done here. It's illegal, you can ignore it, and pretend it isn't but it is.
You can rationalize it all you'd like, it will still be illegal. Again I personally don't care if you break the law or not, it just blows my noggin how stubbornly you rationalize it.

okay, I'm officially done. Have at it.

[micki76]

Ever feel like you’re talking to a brick wall? LOL

[Dogz]

Originally posted by micki76
Ever feel like you’re talking to a brick wall? LOL

LOL

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by Dogz
LOL

She means..........talking to someone constantly about the same thing and getting the same response.......like it didn't go through. Kind of like a brick wall isn't it? I'm not going to say anything to Tikeyas mom....I think she should have gotten the message by now. I'm with everyone........its wrong, its illegal, its stealing, and that's that.

[Dogz]

Originally posted by popcornbird
She means..........talking to someone constantly about the same thing and getting the same response.......like it didn't go through. Kind of like a brick wall isn't it? I'm not going to say anything to Tikeyas mom....I think she should have gotten the message by now. I'm with everyone........its wrong, its illegal, its stealing, and that's that.

Oh, I get it hehehe.

[CathyBogart]

Hey, BACK OFF everyone! People are going to download music no matter how much we argue about it here.

Many things are against the law that a lot of people don't consider wrong. I could bring up one example that comes to mind, but it's inappropriate for this forum. *Chuckles*

Again, it's going to happen no matter what, so harping on a few members who aren't ashamed to admit that they download music is going to change nothing.

How's this...I have upwards of $1k worth of downloaded SOFTWARE on my computer. Photoshop, Premiere... Heck, my copy of Windows 2k! Even my AIM client is one that I downloaded off of Kazaa to avoid a fee.

Windows 2k Pro: $148
Adope Photoshop: $619.99
Adobe Premiere Pro: $699.99

OK everyone, time to change targets and bash on MEEE!! 'Cause I DON'T CARE! BWAHAHAHAHA! I'm not using any of these programs to make any money, just for my own pleasure and enjoyment.

[Shelteez2]

Originally posted by WolfChan
OK everyone, time to change targets and bash on MEEE!! 'Cause I DON'T CARE! BWAHAHAHAHA! I'm not using any of these programs to make any money, just for my own pleasure and enjoyment.

I don't think anyone in this thread has a problem with those who admit that they do it, as long as they fully know that it's illegal.
I think the problem lies within those not admitting that what they are doing is illegal.

As for doing illegal things, I'm sure we all have at one time or another. Look up your state and see if you've broken any laws
http://www.dumblaws.com/states/index.html

[trayi52]

WolfChan,
My point exactly, it seems everything we do is being scrutinized by somebody, somewhere.

Shelteez2,
Another good point, I think I will check that link out. Sounds like an interesting subject, I just hope spitting on the sidewalk is not against the law. Of course TN probably has all sorts of funny laws. LOL.

[IttyBittyKitty]

Let's tone down the vitriol shall we? Regardless of what the record companies may think, downloading and burning music for your own use (as opposed to running a warez site or interface) is NOT a criminal offence (at least in Australia), it is a civil offence. So, everyone should stop treating those who do it as dirty criminals! Save it, please, for the animal abusers, murderers and rapists - those who truly deserve it.

Everyone should remember the simple caveat, especially those of a religious background: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Translated: Let he or she who has NEVER committed a summary offence, broken a by-law or contravened a school rule throw the first stone. And, let he whose grammar and spelling is perfect be the first to cast a stone at someone with a disability!

Originally posted by Dogz
It MUST be wrong, it is AGAINST THE LAW.

It seems some of us are confusing morals with the law of the land! Occasionally, what is morally "wrong" in the eyes of most also happens to be illegal, e.g. murder. On the flip side, no one would agree that men should be able to film their female flatmates without their knowledge. This was legal (via a loophole) here until legal precedent paved way for a civil trial (yes, civil, not criminal!). Also, it is perfectly legal, for example, for an unmarried adult aged 18 and above to engage in coition with another unmarried adult - yet many young adults on this board would not do so unless they were married.

For the religious amongst you, if Bush made it illegal for you to practice your religion, would you continue to do so? Of course! Other people, also, follow their own moral code even if it contravenes the law. Does this make murder right, you ask, if it is not against the law? Of course not, and the law will deal with a murderer swiftly. As it will a 12 year old mp3 thief!

But there is a little thing called "free will" ... and can our law enforecement officers stop worrying about a few teenagers stealing music and start catching the murderers and rapists? Sheesh.

[Dogz]

There is nothing to calm anybody down about. I am perfectly fine, and I am done. I am not Jynelle's mother, so I don't really care.