Downloading Music

[babolaypo65]

Good point tray. and they do THAT to stop piracy. If people didnt pirate, they wouldn't need to do that.

[2kitties]

Yes. A program I use often, Quark, has extreme security measures on its newest version. You can't even install at all without registering. In order to use on more than one computer you either have to buy a seat license or multiple copies. I think that is only fair, though. People are ruthless and will buy it for their company and install it for all their layout artists. That isn't right. The software manufacturers have to do something to protect their interests.

[babolaypo65]

Indeed, if they didn't do that, folks would be downloading Quark from free sites.

[2kitties]

exactly.

[Rio and Me]

Ok as popcornbird said i have brought the CD first, then i might burn it off for my car or to keep as a copy or just to give it to a friend who cant afford a CD! so i have given the artist what they asked and they havnt lost anything by me burning one off!
I sometimes burn some CD's for my gran so she can have a spare, she also has brought that CD!
lbaker i dont understand what you mean!!!
ive NEVER downloaded off the internet, but as ive said before its so easy to download stuff (acctually i dont know who, )
off the net so why dont they stop the people allowing it to happen that way noone can do it, problem solved!
Ky and Rio

[2kitties]

Originally posted by Rio and Me
Ok as popcornbird said i have brought the CD first, then i might burn it off for my car or to keep as a copy or just to give it to a friend who cant afford a CD! so i have given the artist what they asked and they havnt lost anything by me burning one off!
I sometimes burn some CD's for my gran so she can have a spare, she also has brought that CD!
lbaker i dont understand what you mean!!!
ive NEVER downloaded off the internet, but as ive said before its so easy to download stuff (acctually i dont know who, )
off the net so why dont they stop the people allowing it to happen that way noone can do it, problem solved!
Ky and Rio

If you copy the cd for yourself and you've paid for it, then it is legal. But you have broken the law when you make a copy for your friends who can't afford a cd.

I'm going to say ONE MORE TIME: The gneutella system is a cybermedium. Kazaa, napster, morpheus, etc are simply interfaces. They can be shut down, but gneutella, being a cybermedium, can't. It doesn't exist anywhere. When they shut down napster, morpheus popped up, then Kazaa, then more and more. The actually gneutella system, being out in cyberspace, can't be penetrated with technology available to the government at this time. That is the reason 12 year olds and old men are being sued. It is the only way the companies have at this time to make people understand that it is WRONG and they aren't planning to put up with it.

[Rio and Me]

ok im not breaking the law when i do it for myself, and fare enough when i do it for a friend i am!
all those websites your on about (for downloading music) ive never herd of them, wont visit them and will not be downloading any music off the net, because my computor has had a virus (from where i dont know/how i dont know) but i dont want it to get another one.
we all have our own opinions and while you say you dont do this, you must have done something illegal before?
Ky and Rio

[trayi52]

That was exactly the point I was trying to make. When I said copying a game and installing it on another computer you own, even if it is in the same home, it is still considered stealing, so we all do things we are not aware of, that is illegal. I know it is a law that really sucks. We go out and pay a very large amount of money for these games, and programs, but it is like we are just paying for the right to use them, and they don’t really belong to us to do what we want to with them.

[Dogz]

Ok, I heard that PCB was saying that you can copy a CD, well now they are trying to make it so all of the songs are hidden, so you can't make copies anymore. Have you heard about this? I was trying to make a copy of a CD, I got all the songs on the computer, and then the last song said *Hidden File*, you could listen to it, but after you tried to put it on another CD it wouldn't go on there. And yes, this was for my own personal use, if you were wondering.

I think it IS stealing. Period.

[Kfamr]

There's a Tupac CD of mine that has a hidden song on it, I've copied it onto my computer and onto another CD (because I like to make mix CD's of all my favorite songs on each CD) and it came out fine. So, I doubt that's going to stop anyone.

Besides, You can "un-hide" hidden files. I believe that's just so people can't download that file off your computer.

[babolaypo65]

Originally posted by Rio and Me
we all have our own opinions and while you say you dont do this, you must have done something illegal before?
Ky and Rio

I've broken laws before. As I said, I've been known to speed on Coal ave.

and yes, I've downloaded. I have not since the naptster lawsuits. Since the courts determined legally that it was stealing.

Yes, I've personally broken laws, my point is, don't rationalize it, just see it for what it is.

[tikeyas_mom]

Originally posted by babolaypo65
I'm going to play devil's advocate here. I think Sam Walton makes too much money, adn I think toaster ovens are too expensive. Therefore I can go to Walmart and take a toaster oven without paying for it.

you dont seen toaster manufactors making millions of dollers each year for doing pratically NOTHING .... but whatever floats your boat.

[micki76]

Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
you dont seen toaster manufactors making millions of dollers each year .... but whatever floats your boat.

Well, of course they do or they wouldn’t be in business. They make a good profit, but they also have costs that every manufacturer incurs. Those include packaging, advertising, costs of theft, damaged goods, lost shipments, payroll, etc.

Hopefully many manufacturers will make profits, but they all have costs too.

Because they make millions, doesn’t make stealing right. Theft is theft, whether you steal a pack of gum from a homeless person or a million dollars from a bank.

[2kitties]

What is this idea that it is okay to steal from someone who makes alot of money? That is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. Guess what, they are talented people who make alot of money. Doctors are smart people who went to school for years and made alot of money. Lottery winners are just damn lucky and have alot of money. But you don't have the right to steal from anybody- no matter what they have.
Go out and make your own damn money and stop stealing.

[binka_nugget]

Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
I have a cd burner lol, but I dont know how to use them lol my brother does it for me. I think ppl in the music buisness get paid too much anyways, so Why not burn cds. they have millions of dollers anyways. meh ...

Actually, they don't get paid much for the cd's they sell. The recording artist I talked to said that even famous groups like Destiny's Child lose money when they release a cd. I think she said they only recieve a couple cents per cd. The rest of the money goes to the company that signs them. She also said that a majority of their money comes from touring and promoting for other people.

I think (for the most part), downloading music is stealing. It's whether or not you care (or even admit it).