Downloading Music

[CamCamPup33]

Yep! I have Downloaded a few times before, not lately, the site that i go to *guarentees* its Free and legal.. The prices of cd's are alot (here at least) And what if you only wanted one song? Uh hello! 25 bucks down the drain, if your only going to listen to that one song you like.. Sorry but thats my opionion.. I think it's nicer to just download a few mixed songs on one cd.. I dont think its considered stealing, really.. *but thats my opionion*

[wolfsoul]

If downloading music is such a terrible offence, why isn't it illegal to have a site where you can download?

Jynnelle and I went to the movies yesterday and they had a preview that mainly said to stop pirating. Their attempts mean well, but will they work? I don't think they will. While the prices of CDs are so high, and while downloading off the computer is free and more convenient, I don't they they will.

[tikeyas_mom]

I have a cd burner lol, but I dont know how to use them lol my brother does it for me. I think ppl in the music buisness get paid too much anyways, so Why not burn cds. they have millions of dollers anyways. meh ...

[babolaypo65]

Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
I have a cd burner lol, but I dont know how to use them lol my brother does it for me. I think ppl in the music buisness get paid too much anyways, so Why not burn cds. they have millions of dollers anyways. meh ...

I'm going to play devil's advocate here. I think Sam Walton makes too much money, adn I think toaster ovens are too expensive. Therefore I can go to Walmart and take a toaster oven without paying for it.

[lbaker]

good point BAB...... I myself just play my old "vinyl" albums or hum to myself Radio's are still free.

[Rio and Me]

I too have a CD burner (built into the computor)!
Why is it there? to make a copy of your CD?
so it cant be illegal if every new computor usualy has them?!?
a blank CD cost money, so you record a CD onto it a give it to a friend or somthing? i dont see a problem with that, ive done loads for my family, its not like im mass producing them to make money!
Ky and Rio

[2kitties]

Originally posted by Rio and Me
I too have a CD burner (built into the computor)!
Why is it there? to make a copy of your CD?
so it cant be illegal if every new computor usualy has them?!?
a blank CD cost money, so you record a CD onto it a give it to a friend or somthing? i dont see a problem with that, ive done loads for my family, its not like im mass producing them to make money!
Ky and Rio

Your cd burner is so you can burn your files to a cd for archiving or transferring. Or you can make mixes of music you have purchased.
Every household has a butcher knife- it isn't legal for you to take it out and stab people with it.
You know it is stealing, everyone knows it is stealing. I think it is hilarious that so many people spend so much time trying to justify what they know is a crime.
And it is rediculous to think the nickle you paid to the cd manufacturer to buy the blanks goes to the artist you are stealing from.

For those who wonder why the interfaces are out there, just do some reading. They can't be targeted because they are cybermedium which simply mask a large gneutella database that is unreachable.

[Rio and Me]

Ok i know what you mean now, with the files and stuff and the knife thing!
but surly if they were that desperate for people NOT to burn CD's and make a "trade" out of them, then surly with all the technoligy we have today they could make them so you can burn files but not CD's!
i dont think that me burning off a few CD's is going to hurt the artist to much!! i mean its not like their struggling to eat etc!!
Ky and rio

[lbaker]

So Ky, if your favorite artist were struggling to eat you would give them some money. Otherwise not. This makes sense to you??

[anna_66]

And no, I don't think it's stealing. If it is made available for free, then it's not stealing.

[2kitties]

So anna, do you believe it is okay to take goods someone else already stole? That is what you are saying.

It is a crime. It is stealing. Why is this so hard for people to understand. You are simply finding an easy way to get something for free that you rightfully should pay for.
It doesn't matter if you think music costs to much at Walmart. You are not in charge of setting costs of things in this world. Just because we don't like the price of something, does not give us the right to steal it.

[2kitties]

It is stealing and everybody knows it is stealing. So, if you choose to do it, be man or woman enough to say "yes, I know it is stealing and illegal, but I choose to do it anyway." Don't try to justify it as okay. We aren't Robin Hood. And, if you choose to do it anyway, and the record companies or recording artists choose to prosecute you, then you should be man or woman enough to face the consequences of your actions. Fines or jail time- you earned it.

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by 2kitties
So anna, do you believe it is okay to take goods someone else already stole? That is what you are saying.

It is a crime. It is stealing. Why is this so hard for people to understand. You are simply finding an easy way to get something for free that you rightfully should pay for.
It doesn't matter if you think music costs to much at Walmart. You are not in charge of setting costs of things in this world. Just because we don't like the price of something, does not give us the right to steal it.

Well said!

I have a CD burner, and ALWAYS burn CD's, but I ALWAYS do it legally. I have *never* downloaded stuff off of illegal websites and burned them onto a CD. I usually burn CD's to CD's.............like computer games for example. We buy one and make a copy (for personal use), so my brother and I can play against each other from different computers, etc. That's ok I believe, since we bought the CD.............we already have it, and then the copy........we're using it ourselves, just to have a duplicate. I also burn my digital pictures onto CD's, etc. That's all legal use of a CD burner, and there are SO many other reasons one would have to use it LEGALLY. CD burners are not there to use illegally. You can do wrong things with any product........whether its a cd burner or a computer or whatever. Its how you choose to use it..........and really, everyone's accountable for what they do.

[babolaypo65]

Originally posted by anna_66
And no, I don't think it's stealing. If it is made available for free, then it's not stealing.

Devil's advocate again. Let's say I go in to Walmart, look at toaster ovens, but I'm bummed because they cost so much.

I then go outside and there's a guy there with a truckload of clearly stolen, still in the box toaster ovens. He offers me one. Is it a crime to take it? YES. it's called receiving stolen goods.

just because it's free on the internet doesn't make it legal. You can get kiddie porn on the net for free.

Someone else mentioned it, and I'd like to follow up. Is this a crime. YES. is it a horrible crime? not in the big scheme of things but it IS illegal.
Do I really care if you steal music? nah, not really. But I'm impressed and apalled at the lengths some of you will go to to rationalize breaking the law. To make it seem alright, heck to make it seem that it's not illegal.

I also marvel that some of you were very quick to jump on..who... tikeya's mom I think, when she didn't cite stuff off the internet on her own webpage. Can you not see the irony in that?

Again, I don't really care if you're doing it, I'm not judging you negatively for downloading (not that my opinion matters to any of you), but I am shocked at the degrees to which you'll go defending the breaking of laws.

I don't like that the speed limit on Coal ave. is 30. Sometimes I go 35mph, but I know I'm speeding, I know I'm breaking the law, and heck I even know it can be dangerous. I wont tell you it's a dumb law, and an arbitrary law, and I wont tell you that speeding isnt *really* breaking the law. That gosh, they wouldn't make the road so smooth and cars so powerful if they didnt want you to go faster. they wouldnt have the lights timed so you could go either 30 or 35 or 40 without missing a light....

The ability to rationalize is important, rationalizations are important. But it's imperative that we are aware we are doing it.

[trayi52]

I am sorry to bring this up, but when you buy a computer game, you can make a backup of it in case something happens to the original CD, but you can use it on only one computer. Even if you bought it and you own it, you still have to buy different games to put on a different computer. Companies like Microsoft consider it stealing if you put it on more than one computer. If you are going to use it on another computer, then like the schools that run a certain program, then you have to pay extra for that too.
Read the labels. If it says you can share it then it is okay.
If you notice with the new operating system XP, it is only allowed to be used on one computer, you buy the system, install it on your computer and then try installing it on another computer.