Properly used, I think pinch collars are wonderful training tools. We resorted to one with our Honey so that Helen (my young daughter) could handle her, herself, in obedience training. I liked it much better than a choke chain for Honey's long fur. Honey is a Golden Retriever. And it was definitely more effective. Proper use is key with choke chains and prong (I like that name much better) collars. Proper fit is also very important. We don't even use it anymore, just leash her up on her regular nylon leash and collar, but that's because she learned how to walk properly, very early on.