I dont agree with either, and not all breeds with docked tails and cropped ears are exitable, or hunting dogs, a pyr shep for example are a herding breed and they are supposed to have cropped ears and docked tails, happy breeder(they breed border collies, belgens, and pyr sheps) they cropped one dogs ears, and there other pups came with docked tails, and after that she said she is NEVER going to do that again her pup sare born with nateral ears and tails and no matter what they look lik ethey will STAY that way. you loose a lot by docking a tail, and I see NO reason to. so they are exitable, big whoop, border collies are exitable, and so are a lot of other breeds, but they are fine with nateral tails, labs and goldens are extremly exitable, and their tails hurt, but they both have nateral tails. health reason is the ONLY reason to dock a dogs tail, and the're is absolutly zero reasons for cropping a dogs ears.