oh yes I forgot about the part about limiting pellets, you will find a lot of people who will tell you to feed inlimited pellets dont listen to them, those peoples piggies are also fat and have plenty of health problems, you need to limit their pellets, they do need unlimited hay, and they cannot be housed in ceder. yes kale is great, bell peppers are good as well, they can have carrots and apples too, etc.. that kinda thing, feel free to ask if you have any more questions , oh, I forgot, one thing you can do is feed rabbit pellets IF you add vitamin C drops to the food yourself, we have compared lables on rabbit foods and piggie foods and exept for the vit C they were litterally identical