thats right, mary kay rocks. i think all or at least most of their products dont have animal ingredients in addition to not testing. I forget where I heard that thoguh.. too bad I dont have anyone to sell me mary kay stuff! avon doesnt test either.

yeah its pretty easy to get stuff that doesnt test and doesnt have animal ingredients. i just shop in the "natural" section of the grocery store. fred meyer is awesome, a lot of QFCs have a good selection and of course Trader Joes, PCC, (dunno where all PCC has stores or if its only in WA) and stores like that that have mostly organic/natural type products. I usually get Jason, Toms of Maine, Shikai or Kiss My Face products. Im actually recently leaning away from Toms of Maine because they use bees wax in a lot of their stuff. But they are a good company still.

And just a side note, you really gotta look at the COMPANY that produces the products and see if they test or not, because Herbal Essences says they dont test or have animal ingredients, BUT they are owned by Proctor & Gamble, one of the BIGGEST (actually i think they are the biggest in the US) companies that tests on animals!!! So, its very deceiving!!

I know PETA produces a cool little pocket-sized packet that lists all the good and bad companies that you can carry around with you in your purse or wallet or pocket or whatev.

As for other products, like office supplies, just a few off the top of my head: Mead tests, as does Bic, but Sanford does NOT, and they make Sharpies, & Papermate. I think they make Hi Liter too, and I dont think Pilot tests either. I always just buy Sanford products though. I LOVE papermate pens the best anyway!