PS to my last post...I know of a few cats that have lost their lives to collars..Not that collars are killers....just my input...My furkids are strickly indoors but I've seen them get themselves into predicaments I couldn't have forseen. My view...if they are indoor cats let them go au naturale...LOL...if they go out they need ID..I wish we lived in a world where MOST people would say OH YEAH A STRAY...we'll take it in. Sadly that isn't the case. In American society animals are expendibal. Least of all cats...they can take care of themselves...right??NOT...