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  1. #16
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    Originally posted by Crikit
    By the way...why did you sign up under another username?
    I was wondering that myself.

    Do you screen the homes before you place the puppies?

    Congrats on bringing another litter into the world when there are thousands upon thousands of shelter animals in need of homes.

  2. #17
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    No one's trying to be rude. It's just that pettalkers really care about those extra dogs in the pounds who deserve homes too. When you breed, you're adding to the problem. Think of it this way, my mom's a great mom. She loves us dearly but it doesn't mean she should be having kids her whole life. It just isn't fare to your dog. I think you should really consider giving up before you run into any more serious problems. Please, there are other ways to make money. But using someone else's life isn't the right way. If you love her, you'd get her spayed before she runs into any serious complications.

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  3. #18
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    I agree with everyone else and wonder what your parents think. I wonder also, how old you are and why you're making the decisions that "responsible" adults should be making themselves.

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  4. #19
    It's your choice about wanting to breed your dog or not. Although she had problems this time, go let your vet check her out and he/she can determine all of this. If you have great homes lined up for the puppies, then that's one thing. Give her a break though..that's about 2 litters a year.
    Can't wait to see pictures!!

  5. #20

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    Ok, look i sorry I even posted it! You guys shure made me feel alot safer on breeding MY dogs. It is what breeders do if the dog has problems they dont give up! Plus the prob that Cricket had wasnt even that big. All she needed was a shot just to helper. Thanks alot for all the info (that i all ready know) Byebye!

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  6. #21
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    You sound like a "backyard breeder." First you say you're doing it for busniess, then you say you're doing it because she loves puppies ... 6 litters in 3 1/2 years does NOT seem healthy! Who is making the decision to breed her over and over? Poor Cricket!

    Glad she had the one healthy pup, had she seen a vet beforehand? How come you didn't know there was just one pup?

    Anyway, think about it, and give the girl a break!

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    Ah yes the breeders don't give up on their dogs but the majority of breeders at least all the ones that I know or know of don't and won't breed their dogs every single time they go in to heat they give them a break, and if they dog continualy has problems with the puppies or giving birth they do the responsible thing and have the dog spayed.

    We aren't trying to make you feel bad, we're just trying to get you to see that maybe what you're doing isn't the most responible thing in the world and that you're not exactly acting in the dogs best interests.
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    Thanks Amy for the great sig!

  8. #23

    Sheesh

    No we are not runing a puppy farm! If she continuse to have probs then will stop. And i said we are giving hera break! Ill show your the pic soon!
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  9. #24

    Huh

    No!!!!! for the last time it is not a puppy mill! Yeah we breed to improve the breed. It is our responsibilty, yes. Will make the disitions. Not you!
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  10. #25
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    Nobody said that we were making any decisions we were just trying to inform you of the risks of what you were doing. And until I see proof of it being otherwise I'm going to stick with the old saying:

    "if it walks like a duck, flys like a duck and sounds like a duck...well then it's a duck."

    and so far everything you've said about the breeding practices of your family sound and look like a puppy mill or backyard breeder to me. Like I said you might love the dogs but it still sounds like one at least to me.

    Oh and you still haven't answered why you signed up again with another name.
    Goonies never say die!



    Thanks Amy for the great sig!

  11. #26
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    Twice a year is a terrible rate to breed at! I know dogs that have almost died from that. My grandma's dog for instance, was rescued from a puppy mill that bred her twice a year and she was almost dead when they got her. The vet said that she was fed proper food and it seemed that she had exersise, but she had had too many litters. So if your dog is being fed proper food and still getting exersise, it still may not be enough to keep her healthy or alive.

    I got this from a puppy mill site : Among these dogs, the most tragic are the bitches. They are bred at their first heat cycle, usually around a year old. After that, they are bred twice a year until they can no longer produce. At this rate, most of the bitches cannot produce beyond eight or ten years. .


    No one is trying to run your life, just trying to steer you in the right direction that will be healthy for your dog who could get permanent damage from constantly whelping puppies. It comes down to whether or not you want your dog to live a long healthy life, or if the lives of puppies [who will probably end up with medical problems because of the mother's overbreeding] are more important to you. Make a choice, but make sure it's one that is truly better for your dog, not what you want to believe is better. Please, talk to a vet. Here where I live, if a dog is bred that much, they are automatically taken away, spayed, and put in a shelter where they can find a new home. You said that you took them to your friend's house who knows all about breeding --- YOU, being the "breeder" should know all about breeding. YOU should have the nessecities. YOU should have had the needles to give her the shot. YOU are the one who should be breeding responsibly if you choose to breed. Don't rely on others who won't always be around.
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  12. #27

    Ok look!!!

    Evrything you guys have said aint going to change anything! For the last time it is not a puppy mill! How would you know!? A puppy mill is a place were someone has like millions of dogs! I only have 9! Oh and I changed usernames because I wanted to! I have nothing more to say about breeding! Now thats enough!!!!
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    Actually a puppy mill isn't always a place where there are millions of dogs, a puppy mill can also be a backyard breeder which to me you are moving closer and closer to, at least in my opinion you are.

    If you didn't want us to comment on this you shouldn't have posted about it, if you didn't want us to continue to post on this you shouldn't have replyed. This is a message board where freedom of speech is allowed on most subjects. If you post about it we can all reply and give our opinions, and if you dont like that well just don't read it or just don't reply it's that simple.
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    Thanks Amy for the great sig!

  14. #29
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    Wait ... what? Breeders don't stop when there are problems? They continue to breed and breed the dog that has problems because they won't give up?

    I just find that hard to grasp.

    I think you're a young person and you might not know any better because this is how you've grown up. I hope you will take the time to read the information provided carefully. No one is saying this stuff to be mean. We are saying it out of genuine care and concern for your dog. We love animals and we all want what is best for the health and well-being of each and every animal in this world

    I work and volunteer with several different shelters and rescue groups. I have to see so many little innocent animals who are homeless on a daily basis. It really weighs heavy on my soul. Images of sweet faces at the kill shelter haunt my every waking moment. That is why it upsets me when I see people bringing so many more animals into the world. The people that have been taking Criket's puppies could have gone to the kill shelter and saved a life.

    I know that we do need some breeders to keep the breeds going. But I think a breeder should not be breeding for a business. I think it should be solely for betterment and love of the breed. I think you should stop and think about what you are doing. Breeding a dog two times a year for her whole life is pretty serious stuff. I think the slight complication she had this last time was a sign that it is time for her to be fixed. She will be so much better off. Do you guys know the medical background of both her parents and their parents? What about the male dog you're breeding her to? Do you know his medical history also?

    I have two Poodles and I love the breed also. I would love for my little Reece guy to have puppies and have a bunch of Reece Juniors running around. But I have to let my heart listen to my head. My head tells me that would be very irresponsible of me when there are so many dying animals in shelters across the country. Then my heart tells me the same thing when I go to the shelters and see their poor faces.

    All of my animals are spayed and neutered and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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    *Sighs*...well, can't say we didn't try....I hope the best for Cricket, and the numerous amount of puppies you bring into the world, end up in good homes...

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