ack..i think we should just get back to talking about temperment and stuff..lol...

In response to cloverfdx's comment...
first ever dog that attacked my dog at obedience was a lab
That really doesn't say anything about the breed itself. I'm sure there are many bad owners who raise "bad" dogs. There are bad representatives for every breed. I'm sure there are bad chi's, goldens, labs, collies, etc..but judging the breed on one dog alone doesn't say anything. It only shows how ignorant the person is.