awww sorry micky is being dificult. i dont like the halti thoough expessally for herding breeds, because herding dogs only have control of there head, as soon as you take that away imagin how the dog feels? they have nothing. also the halti is a managment tool NOT a training tool, i bet you that as soon as you go back to a regular collar they will be pulling again. and i dont register all my dogs with the city for one reason, if there was ever a restriction imposed on how many odgs you could have, and i would probibly have more then the limit, not if they were all registered the city would know that we had too many dogs and would take them away so we have an ID for all our dogs but only a few are licenced