evolution is bogus

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by mugsy
But you're late! lol

i was waiting for the burning/exploding house-god to be distracted...... he scares me.

[catland]

Originally posted by babolaypo65
ah-ha. at last something that resembles a fact.

sorry - I don't know what came over me

[NoahsMommy]

Originally posted by ramanth
So for example, a baby dies just a few short hours after it is born. A soul destined for hell because it wasn't baptized in the churches eyes.

That is NOT true....I'm not sure why people believe that. Baptism is a profession of faith by a person to God and their peers. Its suposed to be done when someone is old enough to choose for themselves, NOT to save them from hell.

People that never had the chance to know who/what God is go to heaven! I don't have the exact scripture, but will find it when I get home. Its the same as say, someone living in a desolate place where they've never been approached by missionaries or whatever. I've read it personally.

[Desert Arabian]

Lotrfreak-

If I am correct, you have 65 posts. That is a good amount. Out of those 65 posts, 8 of them are posts in other threads outside of "evoloution is bogus". This is a pet/animal board...don't you think the bigger chunk of your posts should be about pets/animals!?

This is the only thread you constantly post in. It doesn't make sense to come on a pet board and make a thread about evolution, asking people to prove you wrong, and when they do you get upset.

Maybe I am the only one who feels this way (I don't think I am...!?), but I had to post my LAST comment on this thread.

-YellowLabLover



(Sorry everyone else if this post knocked the "flow/topic" off track...if I did, just get back on the old track, and de-rail off of this track (lol) )

[NoahsMommy]

Originally posted by RICHARD
organized religion is just a license to hate some one who does not believe in YOUR god...

In my case, that couldn't be further from the truth. Jesus teaches (God commands) tolerance and love. Part of that is loving those that are different from you, regardless of why. It may be the psych student in me, but I do feel its on my heart to understand others. I frequently ask people with different faiths all about them, so I can understand them, NOT JUDGE or HATE.

I've learned so much from PCB about the Muslim religion and its helped me to understand her a lot. Its opened a door to who she is and I enjoy knowing that side of her...

This is common practice for me, I have friends of at least four different other faiths besides my own.

Please don't make assumptions like that Richard. Not EVERY religious person is like that.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by NoahsMommy

Please don't make assumptions like that Richard. Not EVERY religious person is like that.

it is not an assumption.

go to bosnia, go to hitler's germany, go to the middle east, go to any place on the planet where people DO NOT like each other BECAUSE of their religion....

i didn't say that about any particular religion or situation or EVERY religious person.....it was merely an opinion as to the crimes that men commit against each other because MY god is greater than yours. a benevolent god does not instruct his followers to commit ethnic cleansing, religious cleansing or to clad themselves in plastique, or C4 in order to remove an "occupation force" from their land..... a true religious follower DOES NOT disrespect their fellow man by trying to eradicate them and THEIR faith from the planet..


my point centers on the hypocrisy of ANY person who intertprets religious teachings that preach love and tolerance within that belief,
but takes that same religion, twists it into a
hatred that gives us firebombings, homicide bombers, mass graves and ethnic cleansing..all under the pretense of religion and god...

pcb,
what does god think about all the fighting over
the three religious sites in Jerusalem???

if he was the SAME god he should come down and kick a little ass on EVERYONE. He'd slap everyone silly and tell them to behave and live in harmony.......unfortunately he's left people in charge and as long that is going on NO ONE IS going to get along........

but what do i know??

2,000 plus years of bickering by the muslims, catholics and jews.....what a great atmosphere to bring the children up in!!!

if that is what god is all about i'll take a pass and sit on the sidelines, shake my head when i hear about another person dying because it's a
'religious thing'.

before i forget....if indeed those three same religions share the same god why can't they get just get together and learn to live in peace?

is that really so hard??? apparently it is.

answer that question and i will certainly entertain the thought of that BENEVOLENT GOD i keep mentioning........i know he's out there someplace.....he's just hamstrung by the fact that everyone has a different idea as to WHO HE IS.



amen.

[RivenBorn]

I know what this is saying... Organized Relgion is bad or good or whatever people argue about.

Listen to what I have to say and it might make sense to all of you or maybe not.

Religion was created not to worship a God or to make amends to whatever... It was meant for people to gather and find a common belief. Finally Organized Religion came into play as a result of political system. Politics was founded over religion... Trying to organize the masses. The first known organized religion was Hinduism.

Richard you are very wrong by saying that on Organized Relgion. Look at Buddism or varies other organzied relgions you missed out. Relgion has nothing to do with war... War is created by mans fight for ruling not a fight over a god or goddess of God. Nothing to do with that. Organized Relgion is a factor to prevent fighting in a community and unit the world. However since man kind created religion it is flawed.

Man Kind evolutionary features is to controll and take over. Any world leader wants controll. Humanity is mean to conquer and controll. It is not a bad thing it is just the way humanity is.

Organized Relgion was a controll for the controll. Is was to protect people under a common belief system. Then have politics and then came the seperation of Church and State.

[marysmerrycats]

But I shouldn't have to explain myself to anyone

Ramanth- of course you don't have to explain yourself. you are entitled to your opinion

[marysmerrycats]

isn't killing one person just as bad as killing a bunch?????

good point especially since serial killers are usually crazy...

[marysmerrycats]

and the baby who dies before baptism goes to the halfway house of Purgatory and then goes to heaven

well I may be a "bad Catholic" but the God I beleive in would not punish a baby or child. they are not sinful of any kind of sin. maybe the church teaches that so people baptise their kids into the Catholic church. so there is my opinion, a little in the middle, I don't believe UN baptised children go to hell, but i still think they should be Baptised... is that odd?

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by marysmerrycats
well I may be a "bad Catholic" but the God I beleive in would not punish a baby or child. they are not sinful of any kind of sin. maybe the church teaches that so people baptise their kids into the Catholic church. so there is my opinion, a little in the middle, I don't believe UN baptised children go to hell, but i still think they should be Baptised... is that odd?

no it's no odd...that is the beauty and the curse of religion. we can take the parts we like out of it.

i may be wrong---the BALTIMORE CATECHISM, not to be confused with the Orioles, may have changed since I was in school....but being inquistive kids we asked about all the people who were not catholic and what happened to them....
that was the story we were given....

I wonder if Sister Mary Torquemada is still about??? she'd know....

[lotrfreak]

First of all, Christians have an age of accountability too. God says he is love. He judges fairly. He doesn't care what the kid is like. Maybe he is a devil worshipper until he is around seven. (that isnt the real age. God doesnt set an age, because different perople have different abilities and circumstances to where they can hear about God) That baby would certainly go to God in Heaven to the place He has prepared for him. Second, I would like evidence that we have DNA 97% like that of monkeys.
Third, God lets us make ur own decisions. If we would come down and stop us from fighting then who's not to say he wouldn't come down here and make us all worship him. He would just be the puppeteer. Would you like it that way?

[lotrfreak]

oh....yeah... I have another question... what's this whole pancakes on your bunney. for some reason, without me knowing what it means...it just sounds funny.

[lotrfreak]

uh.. sorry *bunny

[mugsy]

Not that you will listen and learn from it, but, it's apes not monkeys....big difference.