BaSim, there is no reason to get mad, if you are using the collar correctly then you are doing nothing wrong.
I tried using a choke collar on Shai before I got the martingale collar and she pulled it apart, and got loose.
I would also never byy the nylon collar with the plastic buckle collar that snaps together. The humane society gave me one of those and then one day right in front of me Shai yanked on it and the chase was on!
I also tried a thick nylon collar that had a belt type buckle on it and she slipped it oiff over her head and off she went. (Is there a pattern here? )
There are break away collars that pull apart if the dog gets caught in the brush or in a fight with another dog. But those scare me I agree whole heartedly with the principle but my dog would pull it apart and run like the wind!! I think they are something like the Chinook collar or something.
Ok, I just checked out the sight of the MI rottweiler and the other 2 dogs, Ellis and Duchess that were listed there. OH it makes be sick, Ellis the Rottweiler, I thought was covered in mud, but he was bald, no hair.
And Duchess, the dalmation, I can't even type what she went thru. People are soooo sick.

[This message has been edited by shais_mom (edited March 14, 2001).]