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    OH ok this is crap. I just can not believe you two, Ann and Soldedad....and I can't stand it anymore.

    Soledad, we had our differences in the past then we got friendly. I would like to stay friendly too, I don't like to have bad feeling with anyone on here, but I have to say, WHY are you defending those murdering maniacs!?? whether or not saddam and bin laden met, they ARE BOTH madmen, and have to be taken out..at least out of power if not DEAD! dead, blasted, hung, whatever, just GONE! ok you didn't want war, fine I understand that, alot of people didn't. but it happend, and it was neccassary, in my opinion and in alot of peoples. we had to do something about him, how can anyone say otherwise. and the UN was never going to go along with it, could not wait anymore.

    if there was a pic of saddam and osama would you question that too?(maybe it was a fake?) or a video, well maybe that was edited, not really them or not them at the same time together?)

    the average person will never know alot of things, because of, like Mugsy said, we can't know certain things, and I agree that we should not(look what happens when the media finds out anything!) but I think we know enough to know our country or its leaders are not perfect, and not always the best people, but I think we are smart enough to know when something is true or not, and I think this is true, there are links.
    I don't have to find out everything by personal experince... I know that if I run into the street I will be killed, I know that if I put my hand into a hot oven I will get burned!
    ok maybe I am going on too much, but how can you question that they are pure EVIL! ?

    now, Ann...
    Even if this turns out to be true, what does it prove? Just because Saddam met Bin Laden in 1998 doesn't mean he helped with the attacks on the WTC towers! If you reason that way you might just as well say the CIA helped with the attacks since they trained Bin Laden in the first place.
    even if this is true, what does it prove?..hmm.. I guess it proves nothing. they were there having tea and crumpets awaiting the arrival of the Queen. absolutely no terrorist intentions at all.
    hey I bet if I mix 2 dangerous ingrediants together, if I really believe it will be ok, nothing will happen! I can NOT believe this DRIBBLE of yours!!
    even if someone saw OJ, at the scene with the bloody knife in his hands that doesnt mean he killed nicole. of course not, he's "100% innocent"! as innocent as those 2 right?
    and since I am at it, I want to tell you that your bull**** about ww2 is unbelieveable... did you all read what she wrote?
    I don't care if a person is 79, or 150, if they did those things they should be held responsible , can't say oh they're old let them go!
    I am just done , I can't even write anymore, so
    I can't think or type right anymore.

    here is what Ann posted...


    USA to deport 79 year old man
    --- Article (copied from BBC News, read original here)---
    A judge in the United States has ordered the deportation of an elderly Ukrainian-born man accused of being a guard at a Nazi concentration camp during World War II.

    Theodor Szehinskyj, 79, is accused of serving in a Waffen-SS Death's Head unit during the war and helping to guard prisoners in the Fross-Rosen, Sachsenhausen and Warsaw concentration camps from 1943 to 1945.

    A retired machinist, he has told investigators in Philadelphia he was a farmhand during the war and had nothing to do with the Nazis.

    Mr Szehinskyj was born in what is now Ukraine, and has lived in the US since 1950.
    His American citizenship was revoked nearly three years ago after a federal judge in Philadelphia found he had participated in "the Third Reich's closed culture of murder".

    Correspondents say that the case against him was based, in part, on papers and lists found in Nazi archives. The papers identified Mr Szehinskyj by name, birth date, hometown and his mother's maiden name.

    Justice department lawyers have been trying to deport Mr Szehinskyj since September.

    If the deportation order is not appealed, it is unclear how soon he would be forced to leave or where he might go. The deportation order could send him to Ukraine, or alternatively to Poland or Germany.
    --- End of original article ---

    Am I the only one who finds this to be wrong? Not only is this man old and frail, but he has lived in the USA since the 1950's! Besides, during World War II you really didn't have a choice; either you supported the Nazis or you were in big trouble. Whatever bad things this man has done, he really was forced into it. Even if he did belive in the Nazi cause, can he really be blamed for that? It's as if in fifty years from now the Iraq war is commonly seen as completely wrong, and all the soldiers are to be deported to god knows where (please note: I am just making an allegory, not stating my opinion). We all know today that the holocaust was a horrible crime against humanity, but back then... I'm not sure people really understood what it meant to be a Nazi.

    Well, I figured this might be able to spark an interesting discussion... I hope so atleast!


    do you people post this stuff just to irritate people?Ann you just wanted to "spark" peoples posts!
    Even if he did belive in the Nazi cause, can he really be blamed for that?
    Last edited by marysmerrycats; 04-28-2003 at 04:01 PM.

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