Is it just me, or are drunks really distasteful?

[Cookiebaker]

Originally posted by moosmom
iceyshiver21,



No it's not. Underage drinking is illegal. That is unless the laws where YOU are are different. Then I stand corrected.

Actually I heard that what Iceyshiver says IS true. I worked in a grocery store where a rep. from the state tobacco/alcohol prevention would come and talk to us about carding people. HE said that it is illegal for underage persons to purchase or have "possession". But if it is a teenager under their parent's roof with the parent's consent, (note: NOT a group of teenagers alone or teenagers that are not with their own parents) then the law stops there. So no, it is not illegal for a child to drink with the parent's consent

The laws make me so mad, and in a way is one reason why I quit working in the grocery store. One time, a coworker, Mike, was on shift, and 2 teenaged looking kids came up. The first one (girl) asks for cigs. and Mike carded her. She passed (barely) and he went and got the cigs. She opened up her wallet and said "Oh yikes, I don't have any $" and the 2nd kid (guy) says "Oh I do, here!" And handed Mike the $. The 2nd kid WASN'T of age, and Mike got severely fined and on suspension for 5 days because to the letter of the law, Mike "sold" cigarrettes to a 17 year old. It was a setup by the state. And yet how many times do you see a teenager getting fined for smoking a cig?? It just doesn't seem fair!!!!

[KYS]

I give money to M.A.D., so I guess that tells you
how I feel about people getting drunk.

I do not condem anybody who takes a
drink once in awhile, (as long as you do not drive)
but to drink so much as to loose your sences is just plain stupid.

[zippy-kat]

Originally posted by Cookiebaker
Actually I heard that what Iceyshiver says IS true. I worked in a grocery store where a rep. from the state tobacco/alcohol prevention would come and talk to us about carding people. HE said that it is illegal for underage persons to purchase or have "possession". But if it is a teenager under their parent's roof with the parent's consent, (note: NOT a group of teenagers alone or teenagers that are not with their own parents) then the law stops there. So no, it is not illegal for a child to drink with the parent's consent

Not so. That's contributing to the deliquency of a minor. It is unlikely that the parents/kid will get caught if it's in their own home but it is still ILLEGAL. InNM, if the parents are caught, they'll faces HIGH fines, 72 hrs in jail, and 30 hrs of community service. More than likely, they'll have to undergo an alochol screening as well.

re: the ciggie sting
I don't know what the fine/punishment is for children. Here in NM, if you sell cigs to a minor you automatically get one year in jail and x-amount of fines.

There are STRICT laws mandating the treatment of minors -- that's *probably* (ie sheer guessing on my part) why not many underage ppl are fined -- some officers may feel it's not worth the hassle when there are "bigger fish to fry" so to speak (and again, that's sheer guessing).

Becareful with what you believe from the alcohol company/representatives... they're out to make money in ways that don't necessarily comply with the laws.

I work for the DWI Office as an Intensive Supervisor and see this stuff everyday.

DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE

On a lighter (if DWI can even remotely be considered "light") note, we had an officer who got two DWIs out of the same car! lol The driver (who was suspected of being under the influence) spotted the cop behind him and pulled into a gas station next to the pump. The driver then got out and stumbled into the building. Meanwhile, the passenger got into the driver's seat and pulled to the front of the convience store. The driver comes back, talks to buddy, goes back inside, comes out and swaps seats with his friend. Instead of taking off, they just sit in front of the store. Finally, the cop gets out to go talk to them. Their words? "We didn't want to get arrested for DWI so we gave the keys to the clerk."

[Cincy'sMom]

Originally posted by Cookiebaker


Mike "sold" cigarrettes to a 17 year old. It was a setup by the state. And yet how many times do you see a teenager getting fined for smoking a cig?? It just doesn't seem fair!!!!

I "think" (and, please, correct me if I am wrong) that is is not illegal to smoke under the age of 18, only to purchase the cigarettes to those underage. Again, but it is something we areled to believe, and I could be way off, but it seems i heard that somewhere before.

One night Ralph and I were buying a bottle a wine, did not get carded at all ( we are both of age). In the next aisle over two "kids" (I'g guess17 or 18) were carded for buying grenadine. This has NO alcohol init, but is sold inthe same dept. becuase it is a mixer. the clerk did not want to sell it to them becuase they were underage. Prob. the clerk did not want to get in trouble ( and I understand that), but how silly is that? Grenadine is what is in "Shirley Temples" !!! Anything that is a "mixer" can't be sold to those under 21? Does this include Coke, jello, orange juice, cranberry juice etc etc etc...

[Cataholic]

I don't know the law in other states, but, in Ohio, an underaged child can drink, with his parents, in the home. It used to be they could drink in public, with their parents, and I don't know if that has changed.

As to drinking in general, it is like most other things, ok in moderation. I don't see the reason to avoid alcohol...I drink. I don't overdrink. It doesnt make me a better or worse person...just one that enjoys the taste. Absolutes, as in "I never..." or "People shoudn't ever..." or "all people that do...." are usually inaccurate statements. If you like to drink, do it. If you don't, don't.

[2kitties]

amen cataholic.

Drinking for the enjoyment of it, for the taste, for the social interaction, for the relaxation- I don't care the reason. If you want to do it, and you do it safely, then there is no reason for anyone to condemn you.

Yes, there are people who overdo it and act silly, but they are stupid on levels other than alcohol influence. They do not reflect on responsible drinkers.

Drinking is neither illegal (for those of age) nor is it morally wrong. Personally, I enjoy a drink and (gasp!) sometimes two or three. I'm safe and responsible and well over the legal age. Also, one of my dearest friends chooses not to drink- and we still manage to go to the clubs when the need for a Saturday Girls' night out hits us. Both of us having a great time.

[slleipnir]

I agree, I didn't mean to say you shouldn't drink at all, its so wrong or whatever, I just ment getting totally wasted is just stupid. I don't see anything wrong with a few drinks