Daisyjeane that is EXACTLY what happened to me. The only way I got it to work is when I right clicked on the picture in webshots I went to properties and highlighted the name of the picture and hit control "C" and then back to pet talk and start a message and then hit control "V". The "C" is copy and the "V" is paste. Then once it was in the message then I put the [IMG] in front and the [/IMG] at the end. Don't panic, the front img puts itself on the line above. That's the only way I can get it to work. Good luck. Phred is the wonderman though...patience of Job!