First off why do you want to breed him? I don't breed unless I have homes lined up beforehand. Like WolfChan stated, it can be VERY hard to place agouti and black babies!!!Originally posted by wolfsoul
If I have any questions about genetics, can I ask you? Cuz I have one...It's a little bit hard, because I'm not sure all of what Icarus carries
See, I'm going to be breeding Icarus in the summer (Not Frisco though...It would be waaaay irresponsible of me to do that..He's crazy lol) Icarus will be bred to a either a blue point or a chocolate point siamese. My friend won't decided which one she wants to be bred, lol. Both siameses are pureline, and were bred straight from ratteries with pedigrees going back to the 80s, so we know they are pureline from atleast that far back.
Icarus is an agouti hooded, and I know for sure that of the colours he carries fawn, and of the patterns he carries blazed and veriegated. But I'm not sure which ones are dominant and might show up in a litter, because it's so hard to find genetics on marked varieties on the net. Do you know what will definatly show up and might? Any opinions would be great
There is no way to know what colors he carries unless you have a pedigree, and since you don't I wouldn't breed him to a pedigreed rat, especially one whos lines supposedly go that far. Who is this breeder? It is hard to find lines that go back that far.
Breeders spend years perfecting thier lines in both temperament and health, as well as color/coat type and body type. It would be irresponsible of you to breed your rat to a well pedigreed line because you will be losing all the work the breeder has put into the lines. What is so special about your rat? I will tell you now, he is not show quality in markings or body type. He is from unknown backgrounds which could cause serious problems later in the line. He may seem healthy now, but what if in a few months he gets a tumour or dies of cancer? All you have done, since you haven't improved body type and other things is just breeding tumours into the lines, which wouldn't be good.
Usually breeder rats are sold on contract, and if the breeder is letting you breed your rat to her well established lines it sounds like this breeder needs to sit down and think about what she is doing. Also chocolate point siamese are very hard to find, just chocolate is a hard to come by color. What rattery is this?
Also a rat can't carry fawn. They carry RED (red eye dilute) which turns black rats beige and agoutis fawn. Usually blazing is recessive. I highly doubt your rat carries chocolate but a lot of petstore rats carry siamese, so you will only get siamese IF your rat carries. If he carries chocolate or blue you will get some blues, some blacks and some agoutis. However all the babies will carry either blue or chocolate. If your rat carries siamese but not blue or chocolate he will only have agouti or seal point babies.
Also are you sure they are siamese and not himilayans? Siamese start out as beige then develope the points at around 6 weeks. Himis start out as PEWs and then get their points. Also it isn't good if you want to improve the siamese, to breed a hooded rat to a siamese because you will just be creating non show siamese. Show siamese have ALL points, and preferably no white toes. Siamese and himis are just selfs, but the color only developes on the points. So if you don't have a great self to breed to a siamese, there is no reason to do it at all.
If you really are set on breeding your rat breed him to another rat who will be a better fit. Like a black self, a blue self etc. So at least the babies will carry blue. And if you aren't keen on genetics than I would stay away from marked rats for now.
Again, it also cost a lot of money to breed. What happens if the doe needs a Csection? It costs a lot of money to feed a whole litter after they are weaned. Do you have cages to seperate sexes? If you have your heart set on breeding, save up your money, and buy some good breeder rats to start with. Also if there are no ratteries around you, how did your friend get these nice pedigreed rats?
I know you have stated several times that you cannot take your rats to the vet. You should wait until you are out on your own and able to give your ratties medical attention before breeding. That would not be responsible to breed without having the proper funds to do so. Trust me, I have been in that situation before, I stopped breeding until I knew I was able to afford the time money and socialization the animals needed from me.
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