well I am still trying to get the cats adjusted to eating separately, it is not always easy, but it is going ok, at least Patches does not seem to be making that funny noise when he sleeps...still a long way to go, I bought a pet scale, waiting for it to arrive, from drs foster and smith catalog. I will update again soon, when I can weigh Patches and see if he is losing weight, so far he does not seem to look any different but it hasn't been that long yet. I am going to put him on low calorie food, now that he does not eat with the others. Louise could stand to put on a couple pounds! sheesh I will have 3 different kinds of diets going for these cats