There's no point in discussing these things with Richard, in my opinion. He doesn't know enough facts for starters, and then when he's cornered it evolves into an "I'm older than you" or "we either fight or get beaten" or "we're the best country in the world" rant. So, really, what's the point? All that happens is that some people point out specifics and someone charges at them with emotions. Not very constructive.

As for your school kids, I think it's high time they (and the rest of America) realize not only that America has such a low favorability rating worldwide but more importantly WHY. Because if they don't know the WHY then they turn to the patriotic ranting as a defence and no one learns or wins that way.

I am proud about many American things, but I am not proud that my country is turning against the very principles it was founded on. And I will not stand by and watch others ruin it without saying anything.