We use the water bottle on Toby and that works for awhile then he forgets about meowing then he starts up again. Joey isn't as bad as Toby, sometime I would only have to let him in my room two times. I feed before we go to bed and when I get up their is kibble still in his plate. I think he is selfish wants everyone up. I try have my door open a little bit, that didn't work, Toby would meow in the room soo I had to kick him out.