Thanks, might refresh my memory for sure. My Grandma was in chairwoman in Alanon for years, she has passed so I can break her anonymity, and I attended meetings with her when I was a kid, I was in Alateen and attended a few meetings of Adult children of Alcoholics, you wanna meet some damaged peeps.... Adult Chidren of Acoholics...that'd be the place to find 'em. OMG! No offence to members, just a fact. I grew up in A.A. as my Mum was a member and always dragged me to meetings when she couldn't find a babysitter. I have a lot of family members and freinds in A.A. Narcotics Anonymous, Naranon, Gamblers Anonymous, Overeaters Anonymous. The principles and 12 steps and traditions are the same in all of them, very helpful. Thanks again. Mum in law is in her 70's, don't imagine she'll ever change but I sure as hell can.❤️