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    Richard, the "debtor's prison" comments in the articles about the practices have to do with filing charges against someone for a minor violation, i.e. jaywalking, and then, instead of having a civil fine structure in place for those who don't pay in time ($25 for 30 days late, etc), or give them the option of community service in lieu of a fine, those who don't pay are sent to jail.

    In New York, if you have an outstanding violation, they don't look for you, they just get you when it comes time to renew your driver's license or other needed state issues. Even then they just mandate that you pay the fine before your license is renewed.

    The jail for housing those who fail to pay their fines in Ferguson is of course not run by the municipality, but by a for-profit corporation who is paid X dollars/day per inmate.

    I've dealt with PDs like this one, and the citizen winds up screwed regardless. Thankfully in the case of Nolanville, TX we had a commanding General on Ft. Hood who told the municipality to cut the BS or he was going to declare the town off-limits to all soldiers. There's no CG to do that for the residents of Ferguson. Nolanville made millions in fining soldiers on the highway to Ft. Hood which went through their town for about 2 miles. It's a great gig for a town, because soldiers are going to pay the fine, or they wind up with military charges against them in addition to the civil charges on the ticket. On that stretch of road, which was the sole 55 MPH limit for miles, if you were doing 56 MPH you were given a speeding ticket. If they were really low on revenue that week, if you were doing 53 MPH you were given a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic.

    The way these cases read, it's an echo of warnings I have given people in the past: The bureaucracy is set up so that no matter what you do, by the time you finish your commute to work, you've violated at least 1 law. All you can do is hope that your particular violation doesn't become the point of emphasis on any given day.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    OMG...

    I normally can't stand Stephen A Smith, but he nailed this one.


    http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/03...h-03212015.cnn
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    OMG...

    I normally can't stand Stephen A Smith, but he nailed this one.


    http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/03...h-03212015.cnn
    I had to laugh (in agreement) with the statements about the 'Hispanic community' looking to be courted by a political party.

    Historically, the HC has been a group that votes with the Dem blocks.

    And SAS is correct, it is all about "What are YOU going to do for us?"...When you come out of the blocks and begin to offer 'citizenship on a fast track', people are going to come out in droves to vote for a candidate/party....

    (You'd think that people would realize that just because a politician promises you one thing, it's not a given?)

    Back in 2007-8 the general consensus in the Hispanic community was - vote Democratic, the promises of INSTANT CITIZENSHIP are for real!!!!

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    ......so, the Hispanic media was rife with stories about how 'wonderful' it would be to elect a party that was going to fast track the citizenship laws.

    One of the dynamics/thoughts in the Hispanic group (HG) is that they work hard and contribute to the economy - the illegals are in a very unique position here in the US -work under the table and if caught, they can be deported.
    They do pay taxes - sales and gas - and often work in the industries where the work is hard, dirty, and at or below the minimum wage. They work with no benefits and no insurance.

    A 'promise' of citizenship was a classic bait and switch move by the political machine...and years later, with no real movement on the horizon - this next election should be interesting and 'fun' to watch.

    The dems are going to blame the repubs for the bottleneck and try to keep the HG.
    The repubs are going to try and swing them over.....with what new promises?

    Bottom line?

    It's politics to sway a group to vote for you. But how long is it before that voting block see the promises as a cruel way to put people on "hold" while they play games with the laws.

    It's a great way to get into office, but soon the people who's shoulders you used to stand on, are going to tired of being stepped on?

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    Frankly, they're arresting the wrong people in those cases.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Can the "Duck Dynasty" boys 15 minutes of fame be over?
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Buh bye, Disney.

    Well, I was planning on bringing the kids to Disney.

    No longer.

    http://www.computerworld.com/article...n-workers.html

    No, I'm not a xenophobe.

    However, I have had enough of the abuse of a program designed to bring truly special, irreplaceable talent into the country to displace American workers with lower paid foreign staff brought in under the auspices of H1B.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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