YOU know it - no matter what the media says!

[Karen]

I should have gone with my first instinct, which was to not order anything for myself till after the holidays. I ordered anyway, and it is royally hosed up.

Karen - I ordered from the link you had in post #1 here, since that was the only one available when I ordered. Post #8 has a different link and it is a different campaign, and it was not posted here till several hours AFTER I placed my order.

Anyway -I got my email from Tespring acknowledging my order - and it is a RELAUNCH RESERVATION - that original campaign expired. However the link in post #8 shows an open and active campaign. Makes sense to me that Teespring could have just put my relaunch order on the open campaign - but NOPE - that didn't happen. So now I probably won't get what I ordered anyway, since my email reads "We'll let you know IF there is enough interest to relaunch the campaign". B.S. on that - I'll just cancel that relaunch order and reorder on the one that is open - that's pretty simple and isn't rocket science - right?????

Well - that's a joke too. I followed their instructions for cancellation, and it won't let me - says "could not find order with that number". I entered it every different way possible - and I can't cancel. So now I'm left in the dark. I probably won't get the shirt because the campaign will not "relaunch" - but then again - it just might - someday.

I'm done with Teespring before I even got started, and at this point - I don't even want the shirt. There's enough else to do this busy time of year, than to waste time trying to straighten this out.

End of justified rant................

Soooo sorry, Pomtzu! That's terrible! If we can get them to reinstate your oder, would you still like the shirt? They are a relatively new company, and obviously are still working out the bugs in things. So sorry!

[Catty1]

Um...really really sorry to be a wet blanket here...the pope that said this was Paul VI. So the shirt is still great!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pope-fr...ampaign=buffer

It was a heartwarming story for legions of pet owners and animal lovers around the world. Pope Francis, talking to a distraught boy whose pet had died, declared there was a place in heaven for the creatures we share our lives with. His comment was reported this week by many news media outside Italy, with dozens of articles in the United States. It was veritable catnip to social media.

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However, it turned out the pope had not made the comment.
Misreading of remarks

The news stories were apparently based on a misreading of remarks Pope Francis made at his weekly general audience at the Vatican on Nov. 26 and on a comment that a past pope did make several decades ago.
Pope Paul VI, who died in 1978, once said, reportedly while comforting a child whose dog had died, "one day we will see our animals in the eternity of Christ."

'There is a fundamental rule in journalism. That is double-checking, and in this case it was not done.'- Vatican's deputy spokesman, Father Ciro Benedettini

"There is a fundamental rule in journalism. That is double-checking, and in this case it was not done," the Vatican's deputy spokesman, Father Ciro Benedettini, said on Saturday, when asked about how the media ran with the story.
The spokesman said he received a number of calls on the story from outside Italy on Friday and was taken by surprise because he did not recall the pope saying anything like that.
Religion News Service was among the first media to put the record straight. It said in an article published late on Friday that the error appeared to have stemmed from a piece in the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera on Nov. 27, whose headline was misleading.
The article recounted the pope's words from his general audience on Nov. 26, when the topic was the transformation of all creation into a new heaven and a new earth. It cited the remark about animals and attributed it to Paul VI, but its headline said "The pope and animals. 'paradise is open to all creatures.'"
The New York Times, which ran a story on Thursday about the purported comment by Francis, acknowledged its mistake, saying in a correction on Friday that it had misattributed the remark by Paul VI to the current pope.
A spokeswoman for the New York Times did not immediately have any comment.
On its website, CNN also corrected its story, noting the misattribution and saying it was unclear what Francis believes about pets going to heaven. A spokeswoman for CNN had no immediate comment.
Reuters did not publish a story on the remarks erroneously attributed to Francis.
What does Pope Francis think about pets?

As for what Francis does think about animals, he has not spoken much about them in public, but Benedettini said that from the general tone of his speeches and gestures "it is clear that he is in spiritual harmony with all of creation."
The spokesman said the pope was preparing an encyclical that will deal in part with the environment and recalled that a group that looks after stray dogs once brought the animals to his general audience and the pope was pleased.
When he made a Christmas season visit to a Rome parish last year, Francis willingly let a young girl place a lamb on his shoulders as a shepherd would carry it. The pope once told priests that a good pastor should know not only the names of his parishioners but also the names of their dogs, Benedettini said.
Recent popes have said different things about the possible spiritual side of animals.
In 1990, Pope John Paul implied that animals had souls because they too were created from the breath of God. In 2008, former Pope Benedict upset some animal lovers when he said only humans were "called to eternity."

[Karen]

Um...really really sorry to be a wet blanket here...the pope that said this was Paul VI. So the shirt is still great!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pope-fr...ampaign=buffer

So I understand he was quoting a previous Pope, but still said it, and I bet believes it. The sentiment - and the shirt - still stand!

And okay, Pom, I do understand - they are in Rhode Island - maybe we can send Sandy's bichons over there to pee on their tires in protest!

[momoffuzzyfaces]

The Book of The Revelation of Jesus Christ (sometimes called Revelations) mentions Jesus coming back on a white horse. If He has a horse other animals will be there too.

[pomtzu]

And okay, Pom, I do understand - they are in Rhode Island - maybe we can send Sandy's bichons over there to pee on their tires in protest!

Yeah - I saw that they are in Providence, so I'm sure that Willy would delight in such an assignment.

I'd be even more perturbed if Teespring was in Warwick and not Providence. Afterall - that's my home town, and they do things correctly in Warwick.

[Karen]

Yeah - I saw that they are in Providence, so I'm sure that Willy would delight in such an assignment.

I'd be even more perturbed if Teespring was in Warwick and not Providence. Afterall - that's my home town, and they do things correctly in Warwick.

Yeah - I think they are so new they are what we call bleeding-edge technology - so far ahead of themselves it hurts! We decided to try them because it is so much less cumbersome and expensive than some of the alternatives, and the quality of the pieces seems (we hope) to be up to snuff!

[LPC]

Yeah - I think they are so new they are what we call bleeding-edge technology - so far ahead of themselves it hurts! We decided to try them because it is so much less cumbersome and expensive than some of the alternatives, and the quality of the pieces seems (we hope) to be up to snuff!

Never mind, it is always possible to make your own t-shirt quite easily with an online photographic company - e.g. Vistaprint. Just upload some graphic of your choice and the words "All animals go to heaven" (or other words of your choice).

As for whether it was the current Pope or a previous one, it's all very strange. There seems to be photographic evidence of Pope Francis comforting a small boy. The photo is in this article: http://www.businessinsider.com/pope-...heaven-2014-12

The photo could have been taken out of context, of course. But given the news about him comforting a small boy (who does look sad and upset in the photo), it suggests that the current Pope did say such words.

I suspect that the attribution to a former deceased pope (who can't be asked now!) is to take the heat out of the issue. But who can say?

Speaking only for myself, I don't need another person to tell me what to believe (or not believe). But for those who need such things, it is still encouraging that one Pope at some point said such words.

I haven't been on this forum for a while, and was clearly led back to it - by Google! I was researching the current controversy about "Did he say it or not?" and found this page. So I couldn't resist coming back to post on this issue.

The above posts are very heartening. Congratulations on an excellent thread!

[Karen]

Well, welcome back! Good to hear from you, and glad you found your way back to us!

[Karen]

So after the whole kerfluffle over what Pope said this or didn't say it, we realized that in all truth, it does not matter.
You and I know All Pets do Go to Heaven. no attribution needed. So we revised the shirt, and just removed the "byline."

The new shirt comes in two options - a normal, and a women's fitted T-shirt, and the hoodie is also available!
Here's the link: http://teespring.com/petheaven

[Karen]

Also, if people want to order, JoycenAlex got her hoodie and was pleased with it - see http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthre...73#post2512372

Hopefully everyone who ordered that first round will get them soon, too!

[mrspunkysmom]

Um...really really sorry to be a wet blanket here...the pope that said this was Paul VI. So the shirt is still great!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pope-fr...ampaign=buffer

Thanks Candace. For some reason, even though I am Catholic, the other popes quotes did not trickle down to the lay level. Interesting.

I still think the shirt is good.

[pomtzu]

Soooo sorry, Pomtzu! That's terrible! If we can get them to reinstate your oder, would you still like the shirt? They are a relatively new company, and obviously are still working out the bugs in things. So sorry!

No - don't bother, Karen. Maybe SOMEDAY - if and when they work out the bugs - then I might consider doing business with them.