Politics and religion.

[RICHARD]

The problem in NYC is the police. They are extremely aggressive, especially in certain areas. This is where statistics get skewed. I saw a report on the news last night that that last year the NYCPD made over 700,000 "stop and frisk" searches last year, up from under 100K in the first year of Mayor (bloomberg)Cocteau's regime. They have stopped and frisked almost 10% of their population. They are aggressive, pushed by a police state mentality to be so, and then wonder why people have an attitude about them.

Understood.

I just wrote out a reply and it disappeared.

Bloomberg and bratton are the toxic brew that are the cause and effect in the NY case.

Look up the 'broken window theory' of policing....it's bratton's mantra.

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Bratton was the LAPD head for a while and he came to a department that was suffering. He was a hard arse that the POs didn't like or want him there.

I have a BIL that was a traffic cop for years and he'd give us some insight as to the feeling of the rank and file....and those feelings weren't that stellar?

BB is a pompous dude, watch his pressers and you get the idea?

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I just wanted to say that I grew up on the periphery of two gang neighborhoods and growing up I got 'involved' with a real tough, Original Gansta.....

......My Mom.

A cop would roust you, maybe call you a punk or make you assume the position on a busy street - embarrass you - then leave.

I had to LIVE with HER!!!!!!!

[Lady's Human]

The main issue I have with the "stop and frisk" policiing is that most people are breaking a law at some point during their day.

For instance, I carry a work knife which in NYC would be illegal. If I get "Stop and frisked" and I have that tool with me, I'm one of the 300K+ arrests they make to justify their policy.

You can arrest almost anyone in society for SOMETHING that they have done to break the law. It's a ridiculous way to run a city.

[RICHARD]

The main issue I have with the "stop and frisk" policiing is that most people are breaking a law at some point during their day.

For instance, I carry a work knife which in NYC would be illegal. If I get "Stop and frisked" and I have that tool with me, I'm one of the 300K+ arrests they make to justify their policy.

You can arrest almost anyone in society for SOMETHING that they have done to break the law. It's a ridiculous way to run a city.

It's "probable cause" on steroids?

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Years ago, My brother and I were going to our BIL's house.

I wasn't a huge beer drinker back then, but it was a nice day, I felt like a beer and who was going to care?

We got into his car and started up the street.

I popped the can open and took a drink - I was in the passenger seat.

As we drove up the street, my bro went thru a yellow light and we were pulled over.

Crap, I had an open can of beer, NO SENSE IN HIDING IT OR ACTING STUPID, so I left it in between my legs with the label visible.

My mistake, my penance?

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There were two cops, an guy that looked like he had seen some time and a hispanic/mexican young kid/rookie.

The older cop went to the my brother's side of the car, asked for his license and when he saw the can, he looked at me and gave me a "you guys aren't being AHs, I didn't see anything..." look.


The cop on my side was a laugh riot, he was into being a cop. He played with his radio, his belt, all his bells and whistles....he stood guard while the other cop ran my brother's info...I didn't say anything to him, but he knew that he was entertaining me (don't think THAT sat well with him)..when the older cop came back he tells my bro that he is going to write a ticket for a cracked windshield.....good enough?

I watched the young cop go apoplectic with his head......he kept motioning to the old cop about the can of beer...

Finally the old cop motioned back to him, "I AIN'T WRITING him a ticket, it's no big deal......."

So, he had to make sure that the ticket was written.

After I signed the ticket, he took the offending beverage from me and began a to pour it out with a grand flourish..........As the last drops spilled onto the floor, I looked at him and said, "you should have finished it, I only took a sip out of it...."

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The times that I was pulled over, unless it was something that I was really guilty of? By just doing the "yes, sir - no sir" arse kissing and being straight up with the guy? I was sent away with a warning and Good Day to You, Sir.....

Just like any other job where you deal with the public, the interaction you have with a person is just a few minutes of their time. I am sure a cop appreciates a person who doesn't come off as a chuckleheaded moron - as a break from the real idiots he has to deal with?

[RICHARD]

Years ago, I was in a LOWE'S home improvement store.

A customer came up to me and asked me for my help.

Being a little familiar with the store, I asked him what he was looking for and attempted to help them find what they needed.

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I managed to give him a little help and when we were done, we had a good laugh about it.


Pretty good for not being an employee of the chain?

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I read the store about the prez being mistaken for a 'valet' and his wife being asked to get something off a shelf for a woman at a TARGET store?

Apparently, being mistaken for a 'working joe' is beneath either one?

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Obama claims that he and his wife have been 'treated like help' in the past by being mistaken for employees.

I always thought that by going into public service, your main job was helping the public.

Sad to think that people are stuck in the mindset where EVERY encounter with the regular people has racial overtones?

[Lady's Human]

Instead of the dueling memes on the internet and competing firebrands invoking base human emotions and creating needless division, why don't we, as a nation, leave the screaming toddlers in the playground to yell at each other until they're tired and yelled out?

While that's going on, we could have a discussion based on the premise that lives matter.

Oops, leaving the toddlers to yell at each other means that no one from DC or the self-appointed leadership on either side is involved in the second conversation.