Politics and religion.

[Karen]

Yesterday's verdict in Fergueson was sad, but the violence that followed was tragic for the community, and I do not see how that will befit anyone in any way, shape or form whatsoever. I feel sorry for the people who worked hard to build businesses or own franchises in the area that are now ashes and rubble, and think the whole city will be all the worse for wear no matter what.

Sad, sad, senseless, sad.

[cassiesmom]

I heard just a bit of a story on the news last night about a 12-year-old boy in Cleveland who was shot by police at a playground. He apparently had some kind of a toy gun that was very hard to distinguish from a real gun and was pointing it at other people. Where did he get the toy gun and why did he take it to the playground? Did the police tell him to drop it? Did they realize he was a child? This is so sad.

Why wasn't the National Guard in place before the Ferguson verdict was announced? I thought they'd been placed on standby in anticipation of problems occurring once the verdict was publicized.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

The rioters in Ferguson claim the policeman who killed Brown was racist. Some of the properties they destroyed last night were owned by other minorities. So doesn't that make them racist too???

[Lady's Human]

Yesterday's verdict in Fergueson was sad, but the violence that followed was tragic for the community, and I do not see how that will befit anyone in any way, shape or form whatsoever. I feel sorry for the people who worked hard to build businesses or own franchises in the area that are now ashes and rubble, and think the whole city will be all the worse for wear no matter what.

Sad, sad, senseless, sad.

I don't understand why the verdict was sad. The kid robbed a store, assaulted an officer, then went for his sidearm. The eyewitness statements being bandied about by the media to fan the flames in the beginning of this mess were recanted, and once they were asked to testify under oath in front of the grand jury their stories changed.

As to the media and the protest organizers, whatever happened to the charge "inciting to riot"? That's exactly what these charlatans are guilty of.

[RICHARD]

One of the most amusing things, to me, are the people who rail about something that bothers them.

The best examples are the media prostitutes/politicians who get on a soapbox and SCREAM about their disgust/hatred on a subject.

My favorite?

The guy from the church who was against gay marriage and eventually was caught up in a meth/gay/massage scandal.

Seems like he enjoyed hiring guys for massage, doing some drugs and getting frisky with the hired hands?

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When people start with the 'blah blah' isn't what god wanted? They lose the arguement

LOL, I'll ask god what he thinks, if I ever run into him?

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I have worked with racists and people who were just plain ignorant.

They aren't separated by THAT much.

The comments about the riots/unrest as being a blemish on that kid's legacy totally screws up any credibility that their arguement may have held.

In essence, they are trying to condone the behavior that led up to his death and blame the cop for shooting him?

People without a true stance will continue to scream and cry when they do not get their way and throw anything at the wall to get it to stick.

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Last thought?

The people of ferguson think that the PD is racist and profile people?

Well, they should call someone else instead of cops when they need them, I am sure they will get 'justice' that way?

[Lady's Human]

I have worked with racists and people who were just plain ignorant.

I've always considered racists among the most ignorant group of twits in humanity. Worse, by and large it's WILLFUL ignorance, because somewhere along the line someone has attempted to teach them otherwise.

[RICHARD]

One thing that really irritates the crap out of me is the 'victim mentality' that has surfaced lately.

IF YOU END UP 'interacting' with a PO, chance are you are a victim of a crime or are acting/being stupid in your life?

No one wants to admit the problem lies within?

I have seen people act like idiots when the cops show up.... they call names, spit, swing, start to act like morons - then complain about getting rousted.

All the morons that you see on TV that talk about kids getting being 'profiled' should talk to the kids and tell them that their actions determine your interactions with the law.

It's simple formula, to simple for some idiots to comprehend?

[RICHARD]

I have been amused by the talking skillet heads on the telly who are talking about the need for police/police departments to reform and NOT use force when dealing with the public (criminals).

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I don't know if getting tickets, being brought home by the police and being taken to the police station for an umpaid ticket counts as having experience with law enforcement counts.......but the answer to the problem of getting hassled by the cops is pretty easy. Don't be stupid - that is what I learned?

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Howard Stern had a tape of his father yelling at him - HS was screwing about and his dad tells him, "I told you not to be stupid, you moron".

There ya go, "don't be stupid" and you WILL NOT be arrested, thrown in jail, beat, tased, gassed, shot,beaten or killed?

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The 'experts' on TV all spew the same BS about the police using too much force when they deal with the cops?

Why not concentrate of the stupidity that brings you in contact with the authoriies?

No one mentions HOW OR WHAT a person does to get the cops to show up.

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The problem is that society focuses on what happens after some idiot breaks the law.

One news outlet makes me laugh because they list all the recent deaths where the police/law officials are involved and never explain why the police showed up?

How's about reporting on the "victim's" actions beforehand?

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A stupid kid waving a fake pistol in a park gets killed by a PO.

What did the kid do to get the police to show up?

The media places NO RESPONSIBILITY on the idiot's actions BEFORE the incident. It's all the the Establishment's fault.

The establishment doesn't give the people jobs, schooling, integrated police forces and government - people talk about change - but wait for it to be handed to them.

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Lastly?

The chuckleheaded lawyer that represents the brown family is a buffoon.

I love that his quest - poorly named after the 'gentle giant' - is to get ALL police officers to wear body cameras.

Maybe THAT will show the BS that officers have to put up with on a daily basis and really bring to light the stupidity of the people that they interact with on a daily basis?

[Karen]

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A stupid kid waving a fake pistol in a park gets killed by a PO.

What did the kid do to get the police to show up?

The media places NO RESPONSIBILITY on the idiot's actions BEFORE the incident. It's all the the Establishment's fault.

The establishment doesn't give the people jobs, schooling, integrated police forces and government - people talk about change - but wait for it to be handed to them.

From what I have seen, it was nothing the kid did - playing with a toy pistol by himself in a park - but that a neighbor called 911 to report what she thought might have been someone with a gun. She did mention it may be a juvenile ... but the police drove up, saw the kid, and the toy gun and shot him before the kid had any chance to do or say anything.

Should a child have been given a toy gun with the orange plastic removed, and allowed to go outside with it? No. But he obviously was a bored kid, nothing to do ... he knew it was a toy, but ... the officers obviously did not.

Tragic all around, on any other day it might not have happened.

So many of the issues are not nearly as black and white, cut and dried, as the media make them out to be - but nuance takes more than a soundbite, and heaven forfend we spend more than 60 seconds to research or explain a given story, when hype plays!

[cassiesmom]

I've always considered racists among the most ignorant group of twits in humanity. Worse, by and large it's WILLFUL ignorance, because somewhere along the line someone has attempted to teach them otherwise.

Over the summer I saw a museum exhibit about the integration of the Little Rock schools. One of the pictures was of a group of black high school students walking into school, and a white girl in a group behind them, shouting. Then a few photos down was a picture of two women, one black and one white. Turned out it was the girl who had been shouting insults that day. Later in her life, she sought to reconcile with one of the black girls and now they give presentations to students together about their experiences, racism and prejudice.

[Lady's Human]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2031841

And this, gentlepeople, is why I hate idiocy like the Ferguson, MO. case.

This is a legit case of police brutality. Combined with the idiotic laws against selling loose cigs (why is it illegal? Because NYC doesn't get their cut) it is a microcosm of much that's wrong with society, but because of the race baiting idiocy in MO, this is getting far less play when it's a much more legitimate case.

[RICHARD]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2031841

And this, gentlepeople, is why I hate idiocy like the Ferguson, MO. case.

This is a legit case of police brutality. Combined with the idiotic laws against selling loose cigs (why is it illegal? Because NYC doesn't get their cut) it is a microcosm of much that's wrong with society, but because of the race baiting idiocy in MO, this is getting far less play when it's a much more legitimate case.

Someone posted a rather lenghty list of 'police shootings' in the last year.

I answered, 'How did those shining examples of citizenship come to be involved with the cops?"

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Yes, the NYC case is an example of 'police brutality', but isn't the basic idea NOT to get on a PO's radar?

I guess I am too naive to have an opinion about cases like these.

You cannot fight the 'power', so why get into the ring?

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Crime is like riding a bicycle.

You can get on and ride as far as you like, but you are going to fall down, eventually.

If you scrape your hands and knees, you can't blame anyone except the guy in the saddle.

YOU might take a stand against gravity as you get up, but who is really to blame when you fall?

[Karen]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2031841

And this, gentlepeople, is why I hate idiocy like the Ferguson, MO. case.

This is a legit case of police brutality. Combined with the idiotic laws against selling loose cigs (why is it illegal? Because NYC doesn't get their cut) it is a microcosm of much that's wrong with society, but because of the race baiting idiocy in MO, this is getting far less play when it's a much more legitimate case.

The only positive I have about the coverage of the Eric Garner case is I had no idea of the race of either the police officer or the victim. Tragic, and senseless, and police brutality at its worst. I think the police department should immediately set up a fund to help the victim's children, not with just a few toys and cards at Christmas, but an ongoing gesture of support and understanding and admission of culpability.