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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    An Indianapolis paper decided to remove a political cartoon by their own Gary Varvel (cartoonist) after they
    received a lot of harsh blowback from the public. It was, at the least, very poor taste.

    http://www.theindychannel.com/news/l...ishing-cartoon
    It wasn't offensive at all. Sometimes the truth hurts.

    With the drain on local budgets which will caused by this mess it is what will effectively happen. Local taxes will go higher while the feds save money by not enforcing the law and the labor market gets more pressure to lower wages with illegal aliens working under the table for low wages. (spare me the tripe about illegals paying into SS, they only do that if their employer is trying to put a veneer of legality on illegal employees, which only REALLY comes into play with state or federal contract work)
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    It will be interesting to see how it plays out in the near and the long term. I remember vaguely when Reagan did something similar ... but don't remember the details.

    So much of the government has been in virtual gridlock - every time I hear a report on the status of bridges and roads it is scary, but Congress cannot seem to do anything much productive, just spending their time sniping and harping on each other in the media, social media, etc., complaining about whoever is in charge (Obama right now of course) but not offering any serious alternatives. Hate the Affordable Care Act? Don't just ***** about it, make a specific plan how to fix it. Just "repealliing" it will not help, the health care system is a mess, was a mess before it, and a massive bureaucracy, and something needed to be done!
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    Pres. Reagan didn't create amnesty executive by fiat, he signed legislation sent to him by Congress (you know, how the Constitution states it's supposed to work?). In addition when that amnesty was passed, there were actual shooting wars going on which people were fleeing.

    As to gridlock, ACA, etc, the House has passed several hundred bills which the Senate has refused to even bring to the floor for discussion. The greatest deliberative body in the world has refused to debate much of anything for several years.

    People were either elated or angered by the results of the last national election, and I'm still scratching my head wondering why, as we have yet another two years of the same stale poltroons in charge in the halls of power in D.C.. Until the leadership of both parties change, or they lose an election to third parties, nothing substantive is going to happen. We still returned more than 90% of incumbents running for re-election to Congress.

    Until THAT statistic changes, there will be no change.
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    BTW, NYC is getting ready to add 2500 additional students to classes as a result of the surge of illegal immigration over the summer. Are their parents' property taxes going to pay for the 100 additional teachers, roughly 10 additional administrative support positions, and other costs to the schools?

    No, and as NY level funds schools through property taxes and state taxes, MY taxes are going to be impacted by the required additions to the schools.
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    The skilletheads in office - all parties - can't seem to agree with anything that will benefit the PEOPLE THAT ELECTED THEM.

    They are just pretend adults playing kid's games.

    "I am not going to agree to anything because they called me a name or embarrassed me in the media...."

    One comment that ALWAYS gives me a wonderful chuckle is the "I want to work with (Name your favorite government agency/issue/problem)"

    Then they sit down and pout when they don't get their way.

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    Obamacare/ACA is a joke.

    Again, Selling 500 tickets for a bus that only holds 45 people is what it boils down to.

    Instead of starting to REFORM the system - they just threw MORE people into a system that is over burdened and over priced.

    I have a problem with BOTH sides of the isssue.

    To quote an idiot, who has become a persona non grata to some politicians - The voters are stupid for falling for the scam?


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    I was told I'd be able to keep my doctor under my HC coverage. Then, I was called and told that my doctor could not see me anymore because my insurance wasn't accepted anymore. Instead of starting all over witha new doc, I decided to wait and change my coverage so I can go back to see him.

    Not a huge deal for me, but what about the people who can't wait?


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    Both parties are to blame for the mess.

    Instead of focusing on lowering the costs - meds, implants and care - they go ahead with a broad plan that does NOTHING to improve the system and the way HC is delivered to the masses.

    Reforming the system is easy. You focus on the 'foundation' - you just don't start to add floors to the building w/o checking on building's basement.

    Or you can accept the plan and read thru the paperwork later on?

    That's a winning strategy..

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    Yesterday's verdict in Fergueson was sad, but the violence that followed was tragic for the community, and I do not see how that will befit anyone in any way, shape or form whatsoever. I feel sorry for the people who worked hard to build businesses or own franchises in the area that are now ashes and rubble, and think the whole city will be all the worse for wear no matter what.

    Sad, sad, senseless, sad.
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    I heard just a bit of a story on the news last night about a 12-year-old boy in Cleveland who was shot by police at a playground. He apparently had some kind of a toy gun that was very hard to distinguish from a real gun and was pointing it at other people. Where did he get the toy gun and why did he take it to the playground? Did the police tell him to drop it? Did they realize he was a child? This is so sad.

    Why wasn't the National Guard in place before the Ferguson verdict was announced? I thought they'd been placed on standby in anticipation of problems occurring once the verdict was publicized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Yesterday's verdict in Fergueson was sad, but the violence that followed was tragic for the community, and I do not see how that will befit anyone in any way, shape or form whatsoever. I feel sorry for the people who worked hard to build businesses or own franchises in the area that are now ashes and rubble, and think the whole city will be all the worse for wear no matter what.

    Sad, sad, senseless, sad.
    I don't understand why the verdict was sad. The kid robbed a store, assaulted an officer, then went for his sidearm. The eyewitness statements being bandied about by the media to fan the flames in the beginning of this mess were recanted, and once they were asked to testify under oath in front of the grand jury their stories changed.

    As to the media and the protest organizers, whatever happened to the charge "inciting to riot"? That's exactly what these charlatans are guilty of.
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