Politics and religion.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Ebola entering the US isn't sad, it's criminal dereliction of duty and failure to uphold the oath of office on the part of all Constitutional officers in D.C.

I heard our government is now sending 5000 troops to Africa to help with the Ebola situation. It bothers me that we are sending all those healthy people over there to get exposed to that and bring more of it here!!

[Lady's Human]

Again, when fighting an infectious disease, step one of the field hygiene manual calls for the elimination of vectors.

We're bringing new vectors into the situation.

Those soldiers, sailors and marines are going to have to be quarantined for 21 days after exposure. Hopefully none of them come down with Ebola, but hope in one hand...

We're killing people on the altar of political correctness and feeling good. Quarantine, limit (preferably eliminate) travel in the affected areas, and for goodness sake, no more damned commercial flights out of the hot zone. (It's too late for all that, however, the horse has left the barn)

[Karen]

Again, when fighting an infectious disease, step one of the field hygiene manual calls for the elimination of vectors.

We're bringing new vectors into the situation.

Those soldiers, sailors and marines are going to have to be quarantined for 21 days after exposure.

Maybe put them all on a slow boat back to the States?

Hopefully none of them come down with Ebola, but hope in one hand...
We're killing people on the altar of political correctness and feeling good. Quarantine, limit (preferably eliminate) travel in the affected areas, and for goodness sake, no more damned commercial flights out of the hot zone. (It's too late for all that, however, the horse has left the barn)

Yeah, it is unconscionable that there have been no limits to flight out of the three most affected nations, and if you think you are going to get sick, well, then you probably want to get "somewhere better" and then end up spreading the disease.

I still think, though, it was plain ignorance that led the Spanish officials to kill that nurse's dog. That that woman got trend away and sent home from three different hospitals, makes Eric Duncan's case look like it was expertly handled!

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Maybe put them all on a slow boat back to the States?



Yeah, it is unconscionable that there have been no limits to flight out of the three most affected nations, and if you think you are going to get sick, well, then you probably want to get "somewhere better" and then end up spreading the disease.

I still think, though, it was plain ignorance that led the Spanish officials to kill that nurse's dog. That that woman got trend away and sent home from three different hospitals, makes Eric Duncan's case look like it was expertly handled!

Did that woman for sure have that virus? If not they killed for nothing ! If she did, that does not mean the dog would get it. They missed an opportunity to see if the virus could be transmitted by animals by not quarantining the dog and seeing if it got sick if the owner did in fact have it. What now, will all animals by owners thay MAY have the virus be slaughtered?

[lizbud]

Did that woman for sure have that virus? If not they killed for nothing ! If she did, that does not mean the dog would get it. They missed an opportunity to see if the virus could be transmitted by animals by not quarantining the dog and seeing if it got sick if the owner did in fact have it. What now, will all animals by owners thay MAY have the virus be slaughtered?

Good questions moff. We may never learn the answers because of the many different people & organizations involved. Seems everyone has their own way
of dealing with this outbreak. Here (USA) we have the CDC and local State Health Departments, but it seems to be no one person speaking for the whole country.

Saw this article today and thought it asks one big question we all need to have answered.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...n-general.html

[Lady's Human]

Good questions moff. We may never learn the answers because of the many different people & organizations involved. Seems everyone has their own way
of dealing with this outbreak. Here (USA) we have the CDC and local State Health Departments, but it seems to be no one person speaking for the whole country.

Saw this article today and thought it asks one big question we all need to have answered.

How about not nominating an idealogue?

The Surgeon General is supposed to be the top health official in the country. To nominate someone who you KNOW isn't going to pass the Senate nomination system is foolish from the outset.

Children, the lot of them.

[RICHARD]

One thing lost in all the 'translation' regarding ebola is the general 'facts' of how an illness/virus, like ebola, is spread.

Back in the day we were all wondering about HIV/AIDS and the way it is transmitted.

Ebola is a more aggresive illness, but in order to transmit it, you really have to be in contact with a person.

You really have to come in contact with bodily fluids - and even then, just being in the same room as a person doesn't mean you are going to contract the disease.

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One thing that makes me laugh -I know that it's not a laughing matter - is the chuckleheads in the media who refuse to report on a basic fact about most viruses?

A virus need to have a warm, wet media ( a human body ) to grow and thrive in. Once a virus hits any surface outside the host it has a definite life span.

Ebola can be killed with disinectants on hard surfaces - Altho they haven't determined how long ebola lasts outside the body, washing your hands and keeping away from people's bodily fluids will reduce your chances of getting the disease.

As more time goes on, I am amazed, irritated and amused about how the media has gone on and on about it.

They have no standards and no responsibility when it comes to reporting the facts about ebola - They make it sound like the first coming of some kind of zombie apocalypse and everyone is doomed.

The stupidity of the reporting - along with the appointment of an 'organizer' or ebola czar who has no medical training, other than reading the label on an aspirin bottle - makes this even more entertaining....

[Karen]

Did that woman for sure have that virus? If not they killed for nothing ! If she did, that does not mean the dog would get it. They missed an opportunity to see if the virus could be transmitted by animals by not quarantining the dog and seeing if it got sick if the owner did in fact have it. What now, will all animals by owners thay MAY have the virus be slaughtered?

Yes, she for sure had the virus. Many people were arguing that studying the dog would be a valuable research tool, exactly as you mentioned. But the politicians intervened and just plain killed the poor thing.

"Ramos’ husband, Javier Limon, appealed for public help, telling reporters by telephone that the dog’s death was unnecessary."

And so now he has to deal with not only the loss of his wife, and the tragedy of her death, but does not have their dog to comfort him, or even to help learn about the disease, knowledge that could help others!

It could have been very important, as the transmission of Ebola to humans this time was apparently cause by a little girl getting bitten by a fruit bat with the disease when she was playing in a tree where they were roosting, so that fact that it can cross from animal to human is already know, but we have no idea if it can cross back the other way!