Thanks everyone , I only used the collar once. It was recommended by a friend so I test ran it and did not like it at all. It obvioulsly made no diffrence once it was off. So I decided to use it to take some pics, you can't see her cloth collar being used in, these photos but the choke chain was not in use, {dangling part where the leash clips off}. But I got many shots that show it. I love taking pictures of her. Actually I don't even know where the choke collar went after this. I use a harness instead. Way more comfortable for her and me.