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  1. #1
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    Glad you and Paul are safe, Karen! As is everyone else. I am so glad no one else wound up dead at the hands of this nutjob. It seemed like New Years Eve yesterday as people were out celebrating.

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    Double dipping

    Now, we get to prosecute and defend this fellow. Yes, we, the taxpayers get to foot the bills for both. I am sure he will not be able to afford a defense. So, according to The Criminal Justice Act of 1964, an attorney will be provided for him at taxpayers expense. Millions of dollars will be spent by the government unless of course, he pleads guilty. I suspect he won't plead guilty and will say that he was brainwashed by his older brother. In a way, I feel sorry for the kids, as it does sound as though he was brought into the process by his older brother. Even so, he was involved and should pay the price.

    So, after all the millions of dollars are spent through lost business income, law suits (and you just know there will be some) investigation and protection expenses, we will be no wiser or safer. This kind of crap happens in some countries, every day and they move on..... as will all of us...just not so quickly and easily.

    Ugh. Glad it is over for the most part. I feel really sorry for the injured and the families of the deceased.

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    The newscaster made a comment about how he didn't fit the profile of a "terrorist" but honestly, I don't see how they can make a profile of one after this week!

    He does seem to have been dragged into it by his brother, but he doesn't have the mentality of a terrorist. He could have easily killed himself while he was on the run, 'cause if you notice they seem to not care about things like that. He didn't, I don't think he wanted to. I think after his brother died he sort of woke up to what he had done. Granted, no I don't know but according to everyone he wasn't the one to worry about. I feel awful for everyone who lost their family members, lives, and those who got injured. I feel sort of bad for the family of these two boys as well. They are obviously distraught.

    It's kind of digusting to think someone a year younger than me could already have killed 4 people and injured over 170

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    I don't think he'll get any less time because of his relative age. We allow and accept people at age 18 to enter the military, and they are considered full adults, trained in the use of lethal weaponry, etc. He may have been influenced by his brother, but he was an adult.

    I also do not "get" the huge debate over whether he should be read his Miranda rights or not, as he graduated high school and was in college, so I am sure, having spent much of his life in America, watching TV and going through school, he could probably recite his Miranda rights in his sleep. That groups are battling about this is, in my opinion, just dumb. If he survives, he will have to face the consequences of what he has done.
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    If I was in this boy's shoes (or in his case, hospital bed) right now, I'd be praying to die. He has a living hell in front of him. And with the "media" speculating and arguing over his Miranda rights and the death penalty, it's only the beginning. MA might not have the death penalty, but he'll be charged as a terrorist and fall under the Federal laws - which will get him the death sentence. Only one real problem with that tho - we the tax payers will continue to foot the bill until he is executed - and I have no doubt that he will be. As more info about this boy comes out (from social media posts he made, etc), it appears he wasn't quite the innocent little brother afterall, and had a side to him that he kept hidden from most.
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    I was just wondering if the guy who called 911 and reported "someone" in his boat, will get the reward for finding him. I had heard that there was a $50,000 (not that much when you consider it tho) reward being offered to whoever found him and turned him in, but I haven't heard any more about that. He deserves 10X that!!!

    I've seen one GOOD thing that the media is reporting tho.....someone has set up a site for donations to "buy Dave a new boat", since his was destroyed by all the gunfire, and would have been confiscated for evidence anyway. Now that was worth reporting. I imagine it will get him enough to buy a much bigger and better boat than he had to start with!
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    Ecclesiastes 3:1
    The clock of life is wound but once and no man has the power
    To know just when the hands will stop - on what day, or what hour.
    Now is the only time you have, so live it with a will -
    Don't wait until tomorrow - the hands may then be still.
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    Ellie, I hope the guy does at least get his boat replaced; he did the right thing - no heroics, no attention to himself, just called 911 and let the pros handle it.

    I don't understand the whole Miranda debate either. Why not read them and be done at the time? Makes no sense.

    As far as this kid being dragged in by his brother? I'm sure he was; so? His brother was undoubtedly duped as well by some fanatic; it doesn't make the horror go away. Being gullible is not a criminal defense.
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