The AG-Gag Bill In Indiana

[Alysser]

Factory Farms are one of the worst things to happen to American Agriculture, sadly. Both for small family farms..and the animals.

[phesina]

This ("Ag-Gag") made the front page of the New York Times today (Sun., 4/7):

"Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime" -
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/us..._20130407&_r=0

[momcat]

Signed!!! I did a lot of my growing up on my uncle's dairy farm upstate New York. My cousins loved having the "city kid" around to help out with the work that needed to be done, this city kid thought it was a lot of fun. There was no abuse or mistreatment of any animal there. My uncle wouldn't stand for it! The cows spent most of the day out in the pasture grazing and free to move around as they wanted to. Newborn calves were treated gently and with care but we never interfered with the babies' time with their mothers. The vet came by on a regular basis to check on the farm animals and give treatment or advice as needed. Even though my uncle made his living from the farm, it was a family thing. This is what farming is supposed to be.

Agra-business isn't what I remember growing up. Unfortunately, the family farm has been negatively impacted as a result. Why are these agra businesses trying so hard to cover up their abuse, neglect, and deplorable conditions? We, as consumers of farm products, have every right to know where these goods are coming from as well as the conditions under which they are being produced.

[pomtzu]

Why are these agra businesses trying so hard to cover up their abuse, neglect, and deplorable conditions?

Why??? Because they can and also get away with it. And they don't really have to try all that hard either. Afterall, so many of the governing powers just turn a blind eye to it anyway. I'm sure that they can justify themselves by saying - "Big deal - what's the difference - they're just animals with no feelings that are going to be killed so that they can be eaten anyway!!! So why do they need to be treated humanely??" Yup - there's the disgusting explanation.......

ETA:
BTW Eileen - kudos to your uncle and all of those like him, for his ethical method of farming. We can only hope that there are still a lot more like him out there among all of the money-grubbing enterprises that call themselves "farmers".

[Lady's Human]

When the "animal rights" groups have been caught on a number of occasions creating the taped evidence, they're begging legislatures to pass bills like this.

Beware the law of unintended consequences.

[lizbud]

When the "animal rights" groups have been caught on a number of occasions creating the taped evidence, they're begging legislatures to pass bills like this.

Beware the law of unintended consequences.

Bull S*** Name any examples of false evidence. Agriculture is big business & producting product is all they think of. The "product" is living, breathing animals who
deserve humane treatment.

[Lady's Human]

Classy, Liz.

http://www.twincities.com/allheadlin...nclick_check=1

http://www.furcommission.com/saving-...l-snuff-films/

2000: America’s NBC Dateline uses video provided by the Humane Society of the US, produced as part of the animal rights group’s boycott campaign against the use of karakul lamb (broadtail) pelts in clothing. The video, shot in Uzbekistan, claims that Russian karakul is produced from unborn lambs removed from pregnant ewes killed for this purpose. Common sense, of course, tells us that killing breeding ewes for the value of lambskins would quickly put the sheepherder out of business. Sworn affidavits from the producing regions attest that this is not practiced and that the claim made by HSUS is false. Among them is anunequivocal written judgement of the video’s authenticity by Uzbek Karakul Company, which states: “Having thoroughly investigated the matter, we can confirm that the killing sequence in the footage was staged. The sequence was taken at the request of HSUS representatives, following a scenario suggested by them. The farm workers (Hasan, Zakir, Mutfullo, Fachretdin) were asked personally by the HSUS representatives to bring a sheep, cut off its head and remove the unborn lamb.”

And on, and on, and on.....

And paying witnesses (ringling Bros)

and on, and on........

[Lady's Human]

Bull S*** Name any examples of false evidence. Agriculture is big business & producting product is all they think of. The "product" is living, breathing animals who
deserve humane treatment.

All they think of is profit?

Abused cows don't give milk.

Abused cows also lose weight rapidly and are almost worthless as beef cattle.

If all they think about is profit then their animals should be fine.