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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    The same could be said about traffic offenses, shoplifting, cheating on your income taxes, harrassing your next door neighbor or deciding to hold a party right in the middle
    of downtown traffic.

    We will never completely stop people from doing any dumb thing they think up to do, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't make it unlawful. Think about it. We can't NOT ACT
    just because some people will break the law anyway.

    Just because the constitution allows citizens to buy a weapon doesn't mean they can purchase ANY type of weapon their little hearts desire. Would you like your neighbor to have
    a cannon in his front yard? Having limits can be a good thing.
    A cannon? No problem. As long as the requisite legalities are taken care of, no issues whatsoever.

    The examples you list are examples of people breaking existing laws. There's no constitutional right to do any of the things listed. However, there is a constitutional right to keep and bear arms, upheld by the SCOTUS as an individual right. There are already limits on that right that have been enacted in law and adjudicated as appropriate limits. There is no need for further limits, despite the fearmongering by the media. Had psychiatric conditions been a limiting reason to restrict access to firearms, most of the recent events wouldn't have occurred, however, the right to patient privacy is evidently more important than a truly effective NICS system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    A cannon? No problem. As long as the requisite legalities are taken care of, no issues whatsoever.

    The examples you list are examples of people breaking existing laws. There's no constitutional right to do any of the things listed. However, there is a constitutional right to keep and bear arms, upheld by the SCOTUS as an individual right. There are already limits on that right that have been enacted in law and adjudicated as appropriate limits. There is no need for further limits, despite the fearmongering by the media. Had psychiatric conditions been a limiting reason to restrict access to firearms, most of the recent events wouldn't have occurred, however, the right to patient privacy is evidently more important than a truly effective NICS system.
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    Just had a discussion about Sandy Hook versus Aurora (versus Columbine/VA Tech and every other mass) shooting.

    I guess some high school kids being shot wasn't as bad as a theater full of people, but a school full of kids gets people to 'act'?

    I find it kinda strange that we refuse to put the same price on every life.

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    The Diane Feinstein gun act is exactly that, an act.

    It's a stupid, minimalist approach (Can you say pretend) to a the existing gun laws.

    I had a great laugh about DF going after a gun with a folding stock.

    What?

    WIH does a folding butt stock have to do with the lethality of a gun?
    If you decide carry 12 ten round magazines how is that different than carrying 4 thirty round mags?
    Does a foregrip on a gun make it deadlier?

    You'd have to ask her, I really don't have an answer.
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    I laugh, therefore? I am.

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