Gun control discussion

[Edwina's Secretary]

This has got to me one of the MOST ridiculous things I have ever read. No one I know of who is against gun control is "more in love with gun then they are their neighbor" and I am sure that applies to very very little gun owners.. Let's stop making rash generalizations about gun owners simply because you fear the object.

As long as you keep trying to harp on "Gun Control", this will happen, until you start looking at the bigger picture and the REAL issue here, the person behind the gun, and not the inanimate object that has no control over itself.

You certainly topped me for ridiculous!

I do not fear the object. I fear the people who feel the need for the object. And that is the BIGGER picture.

However, we do both agree. It is the person behind the gun.

And in the joyous season???? A shooting at a mall very neat to me last night.

[lizbud]

From a CNN report.


The gun control debate

The deadly shooting that shattered this quiet New England town also reignited the ongoing debate about gun laws in America.

Adam Lanza was found dead next to three guns -- a semiautomatic .223-caliber rifle made by Bushmaster and two handguns made by Glock and Sig Sauer, a law enforcement source told CNN. All belonged to his mother.

Carver, who performed autopsies on seven of the victims, said the wounds he knew about were caused by a "long weapon" and that the rifle was the primary weapon used.

Nancy Lanza was a gun collector and recently showed off a newly bought rifle to fellow Newtown resident Dan Holmes, who owns a landscaping business in the town.

Besides the three weapons found at the school, the shooter also had access to at least three more guns, a law enforcement source said.

[RICHARD]

From a CNN report.


The gun control debate

The deadly shooting that shattered this quiet New England town also reignited the ongoing debate about gun laws in America.

Adam Lanza was found dead next to three guns -- a semiautomatic .223-caliber rifle made by Bushmaster and two handguns made by Glock and Sig Sauer, a law enforcement source told CNN. All belonged to his mother.

Carver, who performed autopsies on seven of the victims, said the wounds he knew about were caused by a "long weapon" and that the rifle was the primary weapon used.

Nancy Lanza was a gun collector and recently showed off a newly bought rifle to fellow Newtown resident Dan Holmes, who owns a landscaping business in the town.

Besides the three weapons found at the school, the shooter also had access to at least three more guns, a law enforcement source said.

Thanks.......

Again, I commented on what the news reports stated and again, in their haste to beat the competition, they leave out a few salient details and lead me down the wrong road?

[pomtzu]

The following is JMHO - for what it's worth.....


Every time there is another horrific tragedy involving guns, this thread rears it's ugly head and the debate/discussion/argument starts all over again. And what does it accomplish???? - nothing as far as I can tell. There are pros and cons to both sides of the gun ownership issue, and nobody is right or wrong. Everybody has an opinion in the matter and I don't believe that they should be chastised for stating it. Perhaps the energy wasted here would be better spent making your views known to your state representatives, so that perhaps they can take it to the national level. I personally do believe that this latest massacre in CT has given a lot of officials who seemed indifferent to the issues, a big wake-up call, simply because it took so many very young and innocent lives. The loss of any life in a scenario such as this is senseless and cruel - but for little children only 6 and 7 years old it is beyond senseless and cruel. It was barbaric and unthinkable - yet it happened.

It's time to think of and do something constructive, rather than continuing to be destructive and critical of others who don't necessarily agree with you.


And like I said: JMHO

[lizbud]

There is no reason for this discussion to turn into personal attacks on each other. Everyone has their own thoughts & opinions.
It also is not the place to put someone down because they may not know the correct name for a particular weapon. We are not
all military ordinance experts, so lets not quibble over technical terms of a weapon. It's hurtful & doesn't led to any good end.

The more I hear and read about this terrible event, the more I believe this is more than a gun issue, it is also a mental health issue.
The shooter was obviously mentally suspect & should probably should have been in treatment somewhere.

[Lady's Human]

It also is not the place to put someone down because they may not know the correct name for a particular weapon. We are not
all military ordinance experts, so lets not quibble over technical terms of a weapon. It's hurtful & doesn't led to any good end.
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The comments about how terrible and evil"assault weapons" and "automatic weapons" are straight out of the media's agitprop playbook, and have been corrected in here repeatedly. If people read and comprehended the comments that have been made multiple times rather than making knee jerk responses to posts, then the correct nomenclature would easily be seen. In addition, the comment that "that's some serious hardware" was made by someone who claims to be military, in which case they should bloody well know that that "serious hardware" isn't that "serious" at all.

There are a lot of pointless, hurtful comment in the thread, and most of them are coming from the people who constantly bump this thread for whatever reason to show how turrible them big bad guns iz.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Blame the media! Apparently some people think we all are too stupid to have a thought that is not put in our heads (empty as they are!) by the evil media!

I post in the thread often. I am not ashamed of that. I also make my opinion known to my government representatives.

Somehow I think shooting your son to death, a three year old shooting his father to death - little bit more than a toe stub. Now the guy who shot himself in the winky...

I'm thinking

absolutely juvenile and hyperbolic tone

might be defined as this

turrible them big bad guns iz

[Lady's Human]

Blame the media! Apparently some people think we all are too stupid to have a thought that is not put in our heads (empty as they are!) by the evil media!

Speaking of hyperbole, now calling something straight out of an agitprop playbook is blaming the media? I'm not stating that no one can have these thoughts on their own, however, it's........amusing..........to say the least how well interlocked the statements about certain topics are.

If you're admitting you're head is empty, I'm not going to argue.

[RICHARD]

Speaking of hyperbole, now calling something straight out of an agitprop playbook is blaming the media? I'm not stating that no one can have these thoughts on their own, however, it's........amusing..........to say the least how well interlocked the statements about certain topics are.

If you're admitting you're head is empty, I'm not going to argue.

I heard one puppethead on MSNBC state that something had to be done about 'large capacity ammo'.

I laughed.

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And in the spirit of the season?

"You'll put your eye out with that thing....."

[Edwina's Secretary]

Speaking of hyperbole, now calling something straight out of an agitprop playbook is blaming the media? I'm not stating that no one can have these thoughts on their own, however, it's........amusing..........to say the least how well interlocked the statements about certain topics are.

If you're admitting you're head is empty, I'm not going to argue.

Opps! You missed a word!

the media's agitprop playbook

I too have asked repeatedly that people not use tragedies to push political agendas....but you just keep doing it.

[Lady's Human]

It should be "your head is empty" - - - - you're head is empty = you are head is empty. Calm down!

Calm down?

A typo is a sign of agitation? Damn, the interwebz (facebook in particular) must be full of very irate individuals, and one of my former commanding officers must have been a raving lunatic! LOL

[lizbud]

The comments about how terrible and evil"assault weapons" and "automatic weapons" are straight out of the media's agitprop playbook, and have been corrected in here repeatedly.

If people read and comprehended the comments that have been made multiple times rather than making knee jerk responses to posts, then the correct nomenclature would easily be seen.

Corrected by who? You?? How do you know where they get their ideas? Why do you feel responsible to correct others ideas and opinions. Why not just express your opinion
and let everyone else express theirs?????

[Lady's Human]

Corrected by who? You??

Corrected by several. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. Calling an apple an orange doesn't make it one.

I challenge people's opinions, as do many here. Pardon me for not giving you the echo chamber you so desperately desire.

[Lady's Human]

One of the amusing conundrums posed by modern tech is going to rear its ugly head shortly and directly relates to gun control......

What are the chicken littles in the tech world going to do when they realize that you can buy (coming shortly to a Staples near you) an HP 3d printer, load up an autocad 3d file, and print yourself the frame for a glock?

Are you going to ban 3d printers?

[lizbud]

I challenge people's opinions, as do many here. Pardon me for not giving you the echo chamber you so desperately desire.

The only desperate desire I have is to watch American Funniest Home Videos. It's Christmas themed.