View Poll Results: Who will win the presidential election?

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  • B. Obama

    22 47.83%
  • M. Romney

    13 28.26%
  • "None of the Above" would be nice

    6 13.04%
  • Too close to call

    3 6.52%
  • Doesn't really matter to me, since nothing will change for the better, anytime soon

    2 4.35%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    By the by:

    I'm not a Democrat,However, I'm not a republican either.

    I think that after 20+ years in uniform one could safely say that the next day I "run away in tears to plot your death" would be the first.

    Congress keeps ramming weapons systems through that the Pentagon doesn't even necessarily WANT, wasting money that could be spent on what they need.

    I could take pages to refute this, but won't.

    Just wanted to clarify a couple little niggling issues.
    First, thank you for your service to our country. I mean that sincerely.

    However, I do believe the Pentagon requested additional Battleships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee View Post
    First, thank you for your service to our country. I mean that sincerely.

    However, I do believe the Pentagon requested additional Battleships.
    The Pentagon hasn't requested battleships in decades, and the ones they did have were forced on them by Congress under Reagan to create the 600 ship Navy.

    Next?

    Congress's meddling combined with BuShips ineptitude wastes billion annually. Before they spend another dime they should fix the procurement system.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    The Pentagon hasn't requested battleships in decades, and the ones they did have were forced on them by Congress under Reagan to create the 600 ship Navy.

    Next?

    Congress's meddling combined with BuShips ineptitude wastes billion annually. Before they spend another dime they should fix the procurement system.
    Please, isn't it shameful enough for Obama to blame George Bush for his failures. For you to blame Reagan is absurd. If you would like to dig up historic dirt, try remembering the presidential DNA of Bill Clinton and lying under oath.

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    It's far from absurd to bring up Reagan, particularly in the context mentioned.

    Pres. Reagan and Sec.Def wanted a 600 ship Navy.

    The US didn't have the yard construction assets to make it reality, however, there were 4 perfectly good Iowa class hulls available sitting in mothballs.

    Solution? Upgrade and restore the Iowas to service, giving the US the number of hulls Pres. Reagan wanted in the fleet. The Navy, however, did not want them. They are far too manpower intensive for their taste, but they were forced on the Navy by Congress and others.

    You mentioned Battleships.

    The only battleships in service since WW2 are the 4 Iowas.

    That's their tale, Pres. Reagan was directly involved.


    Please, converse as an adult and stop trying to twist statements. If you can't discuss issues in an adult manner without deriding people who disagree with you and can easily back up those disagreements with proof in the form of facts, maybe you shouldn't be in this discussion?
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    It's far from absurd to bring up Reagan, particularly in the context mentioned.

    Pres. Reagan and Sec.Def wanted a 600 ship Navy.

    The US didn't have the yard construction assets to make it reality, however, there were 4 perfectly good Iowa class hulls available sitting in mothballs.

    Solution? Upgrade and restore the Iowas to service, giving the US the number of hulls Pres. Reagan wanted in the fleet. The Navy, however, did not want them. They are far too manpower intensive for their taste, but they were forced on the Navy by Congress and others.

    You mentioned Battleships.

    The only battleships in service since WW2 are the 4 Iowas.

    That's their tale, Pres. Reagan was directly involved.


    Please, converse as an adult and stop trying to twist statements. If you can't discuss issues in an adult manner without deriding people who disagree with you and can easily back up those disagreements with proof in the form of facts, maybe you shouldn't be in this discussion?
    Please show me where I derided you. I merely disagreed. Are you overly sensitive to disagreement?

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    Your first post in this thread was at once juvenile and derisive. After that, all posts are viewed in that light.


    You also automatically assume that anyone who doesn't agree with your jingostic pap is a liberal.

    Again, false, and to assume so (as you do repeatedly in your responses) is completely juvenile. I think you're missing the second hour of Savage Nation, so please, don't let us distract you.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee View Post
    Please show me where I derided you. I merely disagreed. Are you overly sensitive to disagreement?
    Can you read your above sentence? How immature is this?

    And no what I got was a president that slowed the recession and stopped an economic collapse, he saved wall street, he saved the auto industry, he ended the war in Iraq, he relaxed anti american sentiment around the world and he is on the verge of passing universal health care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee View Post
    Please show me where I derided you. I merely disagreed. Are you overly sensitive to disagreement?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Your first post in this thread was at once juvenile and derisive. After that, all posts are viewed in that light.


    You also automatically assume that anyone who doesn't agree with your jingostic pap is a liberal.

    Again, false, and to assume so (as you do repeatedly in your responses) is completely juvenile. I think you're missing the second hour of Savage Nation, so please, don't let us distract you.
    I'll have to conclude that you cannot show me where I derided you then.

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