Politics and religion.

[lizbud]

Last time I read the Constitution, I remember seeing something in there about appropriations bills originating in the house......

That being the case, the Presidential candidates can flap their gums all day long about their budgetary plans, but they mean NOTHING.

Unless the House wants to rein in spending, (which, by the way, has been under Republican control for the last two years with a leadership that has basically done NOTHING), the President can do very little.

There is so much fat in the defense budget it laughable. Get rid of it. We have more Naval combat power than the next several nations behind us combined. An Arleigh Burke class Destroyer alone has more combat and sea control power than some navies.

Yet we're dumping Billions into developing a ship called DDG 1000, which cannot carry most of the weapons currently in use, and for which the major weapons sytems don't even exist on paper.

The same for CVN 21.

And FCS, and Paladin follow on, and many other boondoggles.

Gut them.

I could go on, but it's not the current discussion.

Talk all you want about spend, spend spend, but where do appropriations bills originate?

In the House, which has been under the budget hawk republican control for 2 years, and all they've done is continue to expand the deficit. THe President was in the Oval Office when the US Credit rating took a couple of hits, but who was holding up the budget?

Speaker Boehner.

Who has overseen the first default in the history of the US Postal service?

Chairman Issa, because he won't compromise.

The house leadership has got to go. They're more concerned with playing politics than conducting the business of the country.

All very true & worth mentioning. I wish more folks knew this. Re Defense spending, Any mention of cutting Defense budget is met with utter horror by some and
screaming about weakening America's standing in the world. Most folks have no idea what all we already have in overkill possibilities.

[RICHARD]

Seriously?

This is the kind of crap that needs to be addressed.

http://news.yahoo.com/feds-charge-91...175908404.html

[Karen]

Seriously?

This is the kind of crap that needs to be addressed.

http://news.yahoo.com/feds-charge-91...175908404.html

Well, at least it is being prosecuted! That's how it made the news! Who knows how much goes on that we, the citizens paying the bills, do not know about!

[RICHARD]

Well, at least it is being prosecuted! That's how it made the news! Who knows how much goes on that we, the citizens paying the bills, do not know about!

This in a HUGE case.

There are many cases that are for mere millions.....this is a case of excess.....that don't make the news.

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The 'record' for MC fraud was 163 million and that case was prosecuted in August of '11.

Incredible numbers and amazing how the gov't. gets fleeced for that much...

[Lady's Human]

Depends on the locale, I know the county DA out here is pretty activist when it comes to welfare/social services fraud. About every other month there will be an article in the newspaper listing the people caught, and the amount of fraud.

[Lady's Human]

Representative Richard Hanna, R, NY.

http://www.pressconnects.com/article...text|FRONTPAGE

If you host the debate, I'm not going to run any campaign ads on your station.

[lizbud]

You too can win any debate just by using the Gish method. Talk fast & lie your *ss off. It's obviously very effective.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/janet-...p_ref=politics