How to move on to another job?

[pomtzu]

Don't you realize that the longer you stay where you are - the more difficult it becomes to move on?? Been there - done that - and if I was still working - would never make that mistake again! If there are vets closer to you that are hiring, I would sure as heck just drop off a resume. It would be different if you were just fishing around, hoping that they might need someone some day. Nothing ventured - nothing gained!!! Don't let this present vet hold you back or make you feel guilty about anything. You worked hard to get where you are. Don't stagnate!!!!!

[Catty1]

I don't know what the laws are there - but here in Alberta (at least) all a former employer is allowed to say is to confirm that you worked at their place.

What good that does, I don't know.

Could you just give notice and take a leap of faith? Or if you apply for other jobs and she confronts you, then give your notice?

It will all work out the way it's supposed to.

[Taz_Zoee]

That's how my company is. HR can only say an employee worked there and the time frame.
But Jessika's point is her current employer doesn't know she's looking for another job. So even someone calling to verify employment could cause issues for her.

[Jessika]

It will all work out the way it's supposed to.

Story of my life so far, and no complaints about where I've ended up. These were pretty much the exact words I needed to hear

That's how my company is. HR can only say an employee worked there and the time frame.
But Jessika's point is her current employer doesn't know she's looking for another job. So even someone calling to verify employment could cause issues for her.

Yes - exactly. And the "law" is they can only confirm employment. But in this industry, doctors are all friends, or they at least talk... they love to check resources on potential employees. So eventhough they are only allowed to verify employment, I know more is said. As I previously mentioned, my current boss called my previous employer without my knowledge or consent, and despite the fact she was not listed on my references. And I have a feeling other doctors are likely to do the same. Also, I work in a VERY small clinic. The HR is just our office manager, if not my boss herself. It isn't like I work in a corporate company where I am only a name.

[Edwina's Secretary]

There is no law about what a employer can or cannot say. There are only things it is stupid for an employer to say (and stupid is not illegal yet...)

With that...most employer are respectful enough not to contact your current employer without your permission. You do not want to work for one that would.

With that...from my 20+ years in hr...do not...repeat DO NOT quit until you have another job. Employers are leery of people who quit without another job. Lack of income is not the leap of faith you want to make. If I see someone who quit without another job I suspect they were near to being pushed out the door or they were actually fired or they are flaky.

Do not...DO NOT EVER say anything bad about your current employer. If someone is willing to tell me bad things about their current - or any former employer it is a GIANT red flag.

There are ways to be positive about anybody and any job. Practice doing that.

So...don't quit until you have an offer...don't worry about whether or not your current employer will be contact...just very politely say...I am still employed so please do not contact my current employer until you have made me an offer and be postitive!

[mrspunkysmom]

There is no law about what a employer can or cannot say. There are only things it is stupid for an employer to say (and stupid is not illegal yet...)

With that...most employer are respectful enough not to contact your current employer without your permission. You do not want to work for one that would.

With that...from my 20+ years in hr...do not...repeat DO NOT quit until you have another job. Employers are leery of people who quit without another job. Lack of income is not the leap of faith you want to make. If I see someone who quit without another job I suspect they were near to being pushed out the door or they were actually fired or they are flaky.

Do not...DO NOT EVER say anything bad about your current employer. If someone is willing to tell me bad things about their current - or any former employer it is a GIANT red flag.

There are ways to be positive about anybody and any job. Practice doing that.

So...don't quit until you have an offer...don't worry about whether or not your current employer will be contact...just very politely say...I am still employed so please do not contact my current employer until you have made me an offer and be postitive!

She's right on 100%. In my case, the only way out of this situation, in the state where I live, was to leave. Just too much abuse. We have no employee rights in this state. Seriously. I wouldn't trash another employer; it doesn't work and isn't positive, even if your employer is awful.

Just keep looking and working and hopefully it will work out!

[Jessika]

Oh I never planned on saying anything negative about my current employer, unless you would say saying something like "I would like a job with more opportunity for growth" is negative? I guess I can't say that "I don't feel fully utilized at my current job" to prospective future employer or would that be in a negative connotation as well?

I did a lot of research tonight on clinics nearby me. Hiring or not, I plan on writing out personalized cover letters for each clinic I'm interested in working in. There is actually one pretty close by that a friend and classmate from vet tech school is working at!! Don't think they're hiring, but at least I have an "insider" who can give a good word for me if they are hiring!

This is just so scary. Say I do get a job offer at another clinic -- how do I approach my current boss? She is the type that will spew "communication is key!!" to me; she will probably be "offended" that I did not approach her more about these issues (again, I have brought up some to her in the past, but not all of them. When I brought up my commute and the price of gas coupled with the fact that my car gets crappy gas mileage, she gave me a $0.05 raise....................). Also, from what I've been reading on my veterinary forums, the standard yearly raise is 10-15%, or $1; I received a combined ~7% raise for my yearly raise AND passing state boards; that's a 3% yearly raise and a little over 3% for passing state boards and she acted like it was a HUMONGOUS raise... seriously, she kept saying "this is a HUGE raise!!!!".

Bahhhh!! Thank you all for allowing me an unbiased area to vent!!!!! It isn't like I have never quit a job before!!! But every other job I've quit in the past I've had a stone cold reason (started school, moved hours away, divorced, etc). Never because I wasn't "happy".

[mrspunkysmom]

good vibes being sent now

[Karen]

Prayers being said!

[phesina]

Prayers and good wishes for you!

[krazyaboutkatz]

Lots of prayers and positive thoughts are being sent your way. Good luck.

[Catty1]

Everything including eyes crossed here that you get the job!

[Alysser]

I really hope this is what you've been looking for

[Jessika]

You guys ROCK, thank you so far!! No news yet though! But, it is the holiday week here...

[Jessika]

Had a working interview Thursday. It went really well I think (I actually hit the vein this time when they asked me to do a blood draw). Everyone seems so nice. It sounded promising when I left; she said she would take care of some things this weekend, give my references a call, and I should be hearing from her some time this next week.

The only part I'm worried about is a) they do film radiographs and I haven't developed film except one time in school; and b) How do I tell my current boss???? She won't take the news well and will claim I'm not doing well with communicating with her etc etc etc, why haven't I brought up any of these concerns before (which, truly, the main concern is pay). I won't accept the job offer right away, will ask for a day or two to think about it, tell my current boss and give her an opportunity to match their pay. If not, I will give her my two weeks and accept the job with the other clinic. Does this seem appropriate?