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    Thank you all for the replies and encouragement. I think I know what needs to be done, but you're right - I'm afraid to! I keep telling myself, give it a few more months, then I do... Then I say, give it a few more months... Next thing I know it's a year later an I'm still here. It isn't a horrible place to work at, I enjoy my co-workers (for the most part - I do feel I work harder than them for far less praise. For crying out loud someone got a huge thank-you letter displayed publically today for changing the calendars to August.........), and the other doctors are great to work with, it's just my boss...

    And another reason why I'm skeptical to leave without saying something to her is because when I applied to my current job (with her) eventhough I did NOT list my current place of employment on my references, she called my boss anyway and didn't tell me she did it. I had to find out from the receptionist at my old job that she had calle to talk to my old boss. That worries me, and makes me worried other doctors will do the same thing.

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    Don't you realize that the longer you stay where you are - the more difficult it becomes to move on?? Been there - done that - and if I was still working - would never make that mistake again! If there are vets closer to you that are hiring, I would sure as heck just drop off a resume. It would be different if you were just fishing around, hoping that they might need someone some day. Nothing ventured - nothing gained!!! Don't let this present vet hold you back or make you feel guilty about anything. You worked hard to get where you are. Don't stagnate!!!!!
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    I don't know what the laws are there - but here in Alberta (at least) all a former employer is allowed to say is to confirm that you worked at their place.

    What good that does, I don't know.

    Could you just give notice and take a leap of faith? Or if you apply for other jobs and she confronts you, then give your notice?

    It will all work out the way it's supposed to.
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    That's how my company is. HR can only say an employee worked there and the time frame.
    But Jessika's point is her current employer doesn't know she's looking for another job. So even someone calling to verify employment could cause issues for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post
    It will all work out the way it's supposed to.
    Story of my life so far, and no complaints about where I've ended up. These were pretty much the exact words I needed to hear

    Quote Originally Posted by Taz_Zoee View Post
    That's how my company is. HR can only say an employee worked there and the time frame.
    But Jessika's point is her current employer doesn't know she's looking for another job. So even someone calling to verify employment could cause issues for her.
    Yes - exactly. And the "law" is they can only confirm employment. But in this industry, doctors are all friends, or they at least talk... they love to check resources on potential employees. So eventhough they are only allowed to verify employment, I know more is said. As I previously mentioned, my current boss called my previous employer without my knowledge or consent, and despite the fact she was not listed on my references. And I have a feeling other doctors are likely to do the same. Also, I work in a VERY small clinic. The HR is just our office manager, if not my boss herself. It isn't like I work in a corporate company where I am only a name.

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    There is no law about what a employer can or cannot say. There are only things it is stupid for an employer to say (and stupid is not illegal yet...)

    With that...most employer are respectful enough not to contact your current employer without your permission. You do not want to work for one that would.

    With that...from my 20+ years in hr...do not...repeat DO NOT quit until you have another job. Employers are leery of people who quit without another job. Lack of income is not the leap of faith you want to make. If I see someone who quit without another job I suspect they were near to being pushed out the door or they were actually fired or they are flaky.

    Do not...DO NOT EVER say anything bad about your current employer. If someone is willing to tell me bad things about their current - or any former employer it is a GIANT red flag.

    There are ways to be positive about anybody and any job. Practice doing that.

    So...don't quit until you have an offer...don't worry about whether or not your current employer will be contact...just very politely say...I am still employed so please do not contact my current employer until you have made me an offer and be postitive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    There is no law about what a employer can or cannot say. There are only things it is stupid for an employer to say (and stupid is not illegal yet...)

    With that...most employer are respectful enough not to contact your current employer without your permission. You do not want to work for one that would.

    With that...from my 20+ years in hr...do not...repeat DO NOT quit until you have another job. Employers are leery of people who quit without another job. Lack of income is not the leap of faith you want to make. If I see someone who quit without another job I suspect they were near to being pushed out the door or they were actually fired or they are flaky.

    Do not...DO NOT EVER say anything bad about your current employer. If someone is willing to tell me bad things about their current - or any former employer it is a GIANT red flag.

    There are ways to be positive about anybody and any job. Practice doing that.

    So...don't quit until you have an offer...don't worry about whether or not your current employer will be contact...just very politely say...I am still employed so please do not contact my current employer until you have made me an offer and be postitive!
    She's right on 100%. In my case, the only way out of this situation, in the state where I live, was to leave. Just too much abuse. We have no employee rights in this state. Seriously. I wouldn't trash another employer; it doesn't work and isn't positive, even if your employer is awful.

    Just keep looking and working and hopefully it will work out!
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    Prayers and good wishes for you!
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    Lots of prayers and positive thoughts are being sent your way. Good luck.

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    Everything including eyes crossed here that you get the job!
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    I really hope this is what you've been looking for

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    You guys ROCK, thank you so far!! No news yet though! But, it is the holiday week here...

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