Sandusky found guilty of most sex abuse charges

[pomtzu]

I see that Penn States own internal investigation found Paterno, among others, guilty of cover up. Tens years of knowledge, and all those innocent children. Sick.

You're correct Jo, and I admit when I'm wrong. It's just a shame JP made those bad choices that will forever overshadow all the good he did over the years. Sad for his family, and tragic for the victims. I wonder how this would all play out if he was still alive.

[RICHARD]

An interesting point?

My roomie said, in passing, had JP turned in Sandusky rather than covering up the incidents?

He'd be hailed as a hero or someone who put honor before a game.

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One thing that stuck in my craw about the whole deal?

All the good coaches who are going to be put under the microscope because of that moron.

Also, why were children allowed onto a college campus?

I understand the desire to show kids what a great college experience can be had, but why wasn't Sandusky
checked up on, especially after the first reports of his molesting kids?

[pomtzu]

I understand the desire to show kids what a great college experience can be had, but why wasn't Sandusky
checked up on, especially after the first reports of his molesting kids?

Because those that were in the position to do so, chose just to turn their heads, slap Sandusky on the wrist and tell him not to do it again, and then go about their life as usual routine - all for the sake of money. Tell Sandusky not to do it again??? - sure, just like an alcoholic will comply if you simply tell him not to have anything else to drink.

[Cataholic]

One thing that stuck in my craw about the whole deal?

All the good coaches who are going to be put under the microscope because of that moron.

Also, why were children allowed onto a college campus?

I understand the desire to show kids what a great college experience can be had, but why wasn't Sandusky
checked up on, especially after the first reports of his molesting kids?

All coaches, no strike that, all PEOPLE that are directly involved with children, should be put under the microscope. From parents to priests, from coaches to teachers, ALL of them should be put under the microscope. Those without pedophiliac tendencies would welcome to close scrutiny. In Scouting- and no question there have been problems in the organization - they have something called two deep leadership. Never, under any circumstance, should an adult (not the child's parent) be one on one with a youth. Never. I volunteered one day at J's camp this summer, and I don't know how many times I caught myself thinking, "am I ok in this situation"? Was it a hassle at some point? Yes, because it got in the way of just living normally. But, it was the absolute rule, and one I observed to the nth degree.

Other than family- J doesn't go alone with anyone, anywhere. And, yeah, I realize family is a big issue, you just have to know who/what is safe. And, talk, talk, talk about inappropriate conduct, and encourage the child to never, ever, ever go off alone with someone, and respecting boundaries.

I hate this is the world we live in. But, I hate even more that children go through this.

[RICHARD]

All coaches, no strike that, all PEOPLE that are directly involved with children, should be put under the microscope. From parents to priests, from coaches to teachers, ALL of them should be put under the microscope. Those without pedophiliac tendencies would welcome to close scrutiny. In Scouting- and no question there have been problems in the organization - they have something called two deep leadership. Never, under any circumstance, should an adult (not the child's parent) be one on one with a youth. Never. I volunteered one day at J's camp this summer, and I don't know how many times I caught myself thinking, "am I ok in this situation"? Was it a hassle at some point? Yes, because it got in the way of just living normally. But, it was the absolute rule, and one I observed to the nth degree.

Other than family- J doesn't go alone with anyone, anywhere. And, yeah, I realize family is a big issue, you just have to know who/what is safe. And, talk, talk, talk about inappropriate conduct, and encourage the child to never, ever, ever go off alone with someone, and respecting boundaries.

I hate this is the world we live in. But, I hate even more that children go through this.

The Chinese and Russians (maybe Richard Branson soon?) are the only ones putting people into space.
I'd love to take that ride. I hate this planet at times, too.

I was a camp counselor for one summer and did a few week long outings with kids...And I thought the very same thought...

"Am I o.k.?"

You know you are o.k., but it takes one incident to put you under the spotlight.

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I just read a story where some kind of counselor/teacher made contact with a student---the kid claimed the teacher fondled his breasts, the teach said he put his hand out to stop the kid - and the teach was being dragged over the coals for sex abuse. Someplace in between the truth exists.

It's one extreme to another.

Some kids -devious little effers - know enough to scream when something is wrong, others do it when nothing is wrong, then you have the kids who are so hurt by what an adult has done to them, they don't trust anyone and they suffer needlessly.

I do wonder why so many kids - 9? - were let to hang out with this idiot and noone complained.

Usually one of the children will blow the whistle on stuff like that, In this Case? you have a bunch of adults who dropped the ball.

morons.

[Cataholic]

You're correct Jo, and I admit when I'm wrong. It's just a shame JP made those bad choices that will forever overshadow all the good he did over the years. Sad for his family, and tragic for the victims. I wonder how this would all play out if he was still alive.

Pom- you are entitled to your opinion, and that doesn't mean you are 'wrong' if the powers that be determine otherwise. Personally, I have a hard time believing he didn't know a lot more than he let on. I played a college sport, and while it wasn't football (LOL), everyone knew what everyone was doing, from other players, to the trainors, to the assistant coaches (and their wives), all the way up to the AD. I think Sandusky's wife is to blame, too.