"Whenever" and "Seen"

[Willow Oak]

I'd druther hear someone say, "I seen," that's seen somethin', than to say, "I have seen," that ain't seen anythin'!

A "flounder" is a fish; "founder" is what happens when a ship runs aground.

[pomtzu]

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A "flounder" is a fish; "founder" is what happens when a ship runs aground.[/QUOTE]

But that ship has to sink below the surface of the water to "founder". If it's above and tossing about against rocks or a reef, wouldn't it be "floundering"?

[pomtzu]

My big pet peeve is "waiting on" and "waiting for". I summed it up back in post #52. That still drives me nuts.

[Willow Oak]

But that ship has to sink below the surface of the water to "founder". If it's above and tossing about against rocks or a reef, wouldn't it be "floundering"?

Language is evolving. That is what drives some of us "mad." When I was in school I was castigated if I spelled "buses" as "busses." Now, the latter spelling appears in dictionaries and has been approved as acceptable. The word "ain't" has become part of many dictionaries. I believe that the word "flounder" was inadvertently used instead of "founder" when someone was lost and trying to find his way (tossed about). Now the dictionaries approve the misuse of the word.

Most of the European languages evolved from Greek and Latin. Latin was the language spoke in ancient Rome, hence the "romance" languages.

Am I preaching to the choir here?

[Karen]

I'd druther hear someone say, "I seen," that's seen somethin', than to say, "I have seen," that ain't seen anythin'!

A "flounder" is a fish; "founder" is what happens when a ship runs aground.

But "I saw," or "I have seen" is correct! "I seen" is not.

[Willow Oak]

But "I saw," or "I have seen" is correct! "I seen" is not.

"I saw" is not correct, if you did not see. Likewise, "I have seen" is not correct if you did not see.

Furthermore, it is grammatically incorrect to begin with a conjunction, such as the word "but."

Still furthermore, it is grammatically incorrect to separate two words or two phrases with a comma when they are separated by the conjunction "or," as in "'I saw,' or 'I have seen.'"

Worse still is correcting the moderator of a forum.

[pomtzu]

"I saw" is not correct, if you did not see. Likewise, "I have seen" is not correct if you did not see.

But (incorrect ) if I really have seen it, or I really did see it, then "I saw it" is correct - not "I seen it". Those hyphens I use all the time are incorrect also. Correct?

Feel free Dan - I'm not a moderator!

[Karen]

"I saw" is not correct, if you did not see. Likewise, "I have seen" is not correct if you did not see.

Furthermore, it is grammatically incorrect to begin with a conjunction, such as the word "but."

Still furthermore, it is grammatically incorrect to separate two words or two phrases with a comma when they are separated by the conjunction "or," as in "'I saw,' or 'I have seen.'"

Worse still is correcting the moderator of a forum.

It is not incorrect in the course of a conversation to begin a sentence with a connection, although it is poor form in written literature.

It is correct to say "I saw" as in "I saw the squirrel." It is also correct to say "I have seen squirrels." I only put that comma in that sentence as I was typing it and edited it to put the "or" in and therefore should have deleted the comma. I was in error in that particular instance.

[Willow Oak]

It is not incorrect in the course of a conversation to begin a sentence with a connection, although it is poor form in written literature.

It is correct to say "I saw" as in "I saw the squirrel." It is also correct to say "I have seen squirrels." I only put that common in that sentence as I was typing it and edited it to put the "or" in and therefore should have deleted the comma. I was in error in that particular instance.

You are totally correct (as if you need my stamp of approval). However, I think that it is okay to "break" the rules of grammar in the instance of written literature if one is doing so for emphasis or to be poetic. I do it all the time.

For instance, the sentence, "I do it all the time," is grammatically incorrect. Can you tell me why?

[Karen]

For instance, the sentence, "I do it all the time," is grammatically incorrect. Can you tell me why?

"I do it all the time," is not incorrect, unless there's nothing after the comma and that needs to be a period.

[Willow Oak]

You are totally correct (as if you need my stamp of approval). However, I think that it is okay to "break" the rules of grammar in the instance of written literature if one is doing so for emphasis or to be poetic. I do it all the time.

For instance, the sentence, "I do it all the time," is grammatically incorrect. Can you tell me why?

"I do it all the time," is not incorrect, unless there's nothing after the comma and that needs to be a period.

In the above quote, I say "I think that it is okay to "break" the rules of grammar in the instance of written literature if one is doing so for emphasis or to be poetic. I do it all the time."

The context makes what I wrote okay and understandable; but technically, "I do it all the time" is grammatically incorrect. One must not use a naked pronoun -- i. e., a pronoun without an antecedent; otherwise, how is the reader to know what "it" is? The most grammatically correct way to write would be:

"I think that it is okay to 'break' the rules of grammar in the instance of written literature if one is doing so for emphasis or to be poetic. I 'break' the rules of grammar all the time."

[Edwina's Secretary]

You are totally correct (as if you need my stamp of approval). However, I think that it is okay to "break" the rules of grammar in the instance of written literature if one is doing so for emphasis or to be poetic. I do it all the time.

For instance, the sentence, "I do it all the time," is grammatically incorrect. Can you tell me why?

Yes.

[cassiesmom]

Dear golf club, I don't put gift cards in "thier" stockings; I put gift cards in their stockings. This is an awkward spelling mistake on the sign in front of the club.

Dear banquet hall, I think the Illinois "Youht" USAC might have been a little surprised when they saw the name of their organization on your east welcome sign! It was correct on the sign that faces west, though.

Dear whoever came up with the word "adorbz"- I flinch when I hear an adult say this. Just say adorable.

Thank you,
Elyse (word nerd)