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    In an ideal world, preventative care catches conditions before they cost six figures to treat and send one into bankruptcy. In the real world, a lot of people cannot afford this.

    In an ideal world, doctors prescribe appropriate tests. In the real world, our litigious society almost forces MDs to prescribe the kitchen sink.

    In an ideal world, Republicans and Democrats would have crafted the ACA together. In the real world, this didn't happen.

    I can't help but think about the kerfuffle over Medicare Part D, aka Prescription Drug Coverage. The world was going to end then, according to certain pundits. As far as I can tell, it's still here.

    Bottom line: let's give the ACA a chance to work before chucking it out.
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    Me thinks this will be a very long thread.................
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    Me thinks this will be a very long thread.................
    Someone on FB posted this picture of a guy with a microphone and the caption was, "Brace yourselves. Everyone on FB is about to become a constitutional scholar!"

    Very funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic View Post
    Someone on FB posted this picture of a guy with a microphone and the caption was, "Brace yourselves. Everyone on FB is about to become a constitutional scholar!"

    Very funny.
    Here he is -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    Here he is -
    It's the hilt of a sword, not a microphone.

    In addition, this is exactly the kind of derisive crap that makes peaceful discussions of politics impossible.

    Disagreement isn't enough, you have to deride those who disagree with you and score "points" to win the argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    It's the hilt of a sword, not a microphone.

    In addition, this is exactly the kind of derisive crap that makes peaceful discussions of politics impossible.

    Disagreement isn't enough, you have to deride those who disagree with you and score "points" to win the argument.
    Say what? You surely cannot be directing that towards me! I simply thought it was funny. Very funny. I wasn't deriding anyone. Sheesh.

    And, ever since my eye injury, frankly, I don't see things that well, especially when I am looking at them on my phone, which was where I originally saw it. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic View Post
    Say what? You surely cannot be directing that towards me! I simply thought it was funny. Very funny. I wasn't deriding anyone. Sheesh.

    And, ever since my eye injury, frankly, I don't see things that well, especially when I am looking at them on my phone, which was where I originally saw it. Sorry.
    I agree with you - I thought it was very funny, which is why I posted it on my FB page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    It's the hilt of a sword, not a microphone.

    In addition, this is exactly the kind of derisive crap that makes peaceful discussions of politics impossible.

    Disagreement isn't enough, you have to deride those who disagree with you and score "points" to win the argument.
    Speaking of peaceful discussion:

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    Quote Originally Posted by phesina View Post
    Speaking of peaceful discussion:

    "Former (Michigan) GOP Spokesman: 'Is Armed Rebellion Now Justified?' - http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/17151
    The GOP in the State of Michigan is disgusting. From acting like petulant, pre-teens while banning two female Representatives from speaking on the floor - to this jerk with his "armed rebellion" comments. I'm ashamed to say I live here

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    Now that the government controls our health insurance, it's only a hop, skip and jump until they control what we are allowed to eat. After all that is health related, right? and our bedtimes too. We must get the proper amout of sleep each night to stay healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces View Post
    Now that the government controls our health insurance, it's only a hop, skip and jump until they control what we are allowed to eat. After all that is health related, right? and our bedtimes too. We must get the proper amout of sleep each night to stay healthy.
    I don't think you need to worry about any of that. After all, most countries have universal healthcare in the developed world, and none of them regulate bed time, and what folks eat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey the elder View Post

    In an ideal world, doctors prescribe appropriate tests. In the real world, our litigious society almost forces MDs to prescribe the kitchen sink.
    Do you really believe that health care has gone to hell in a hand basket because of too many tests? How about the argument that doctors aren't allowed to practice medicine because of what the insurance company mandates?

    To really get a good understanding of the "malpractice crisis", read this article.

    http://www.rwjf.org/pr/synthesis/rep...no8_primer.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic View Post
    Do you really believe that health care has gone to hell in a hand basket because of too many tests?
    Funny you should say that. There are many things I don't bring up with my PCP that maybe I should. Why??? - test-test-test - that's how he is. I have enough trouble without finding more that I wasn't expecting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic View Post
    Do you really believe that health care has gone to hell in a hand basket because of too many tests? How about the argument that doctors aren't allowed to practice medicine because of what the insurance company mandates?
    The problem is BOTH!

    I had bloodwork done. The list of tests was rather long, and I asked the doc about it.

    They are required to run tests for things they don't think are problems, because the group and the insurance company has given them basically a list of "if you test for this you have to test for this too" as a CYA.

    What the doc wanted to test me for pinpointed the issue rather quickly. The rest were just additional cost for all.
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