Do we dare discuss the Supreme Court decision re: Healthcare

[lizbud]

I was very much opposed to it until I read a break-down of it. There are still a LOT of rumors and myths floating around about what is included in the bill that just aren't true.

I will say, though, that I am still NOT happy about being "penalized" for making a CHOICE to not purchase insurance. They say this is to prevent people from getting coverage on an "as-needed" basis, and hopefully promoting more wellness care so that emergency trips are avoided or lessened. I do understand that, but we live in America, we are the "land of the free", yet we aren't allowed to make a choice to have insurance or not or we get "penalized". Oh, sorry, they call it a "tax" so it's deemed "constitutional".

BUT, I do encourage every one of you to visit this link and read the break-down of points. He even goes through and debunks some myths that are floating around, some of which I've even read in this thread.

http://www.reddit.com/tb/vbkfm

Thanks for this info.It explains a lot.

[Jessika]

I'm glad that link has helped you guys. I know it helped explain it to me a lot!

[katladyd]

Here in California, they have pretty much told me that on my income of between 10k-15k, I will be FORCED to by into Obamacare at the nifty sum of $250 per month. Oh yes, we will get a subsidy, we will get a tax break, big f***ing deal! I will still HAVE to pay $250 per month or be penalized. I have elderly relative on Medicaid and they have been warned that their coverage will be severely cut. Nice. Illegals, on the other hand, will still get full coverage. Again, nice. I do like the idea of insurance companies not being able to say "no" to pre-existing conditions, that's good. Where am I and millions like me going to get the money to pay for this?
Who the H*ll knows. I do know that our president doesn't really care how much I won't eat or if I have to live in my car, but he DOES care whether or not I buy this infernal insurance. Tell ya what, I'M NOT BUYING IT! LET THEM ARREST ME! I WON'T BACK DOWN OR STARVE!

[Lady's Human]

250/month?

Don't know where you're getting that figure:



In addition, the "severe cuts" to medicaid shouldn't affect an elderly person, as 1) an elderly isn't under Medcaid, rather, they are under Medicare, and 2) while there are budgetary cuts made under the law to Medicare, there is an increase to fraud fighting efforts, which might see some budgetary relief.

The only "coverage" illegal aliens recieve is emergency room care, which is afforded to anyone. They're illegal, thus they have no legal status, so how could they be legally covered?

While I don't think the law is a panacea by any stretch of the imagination, the outright lies told about it by oppponents are getting tiresome. It's easy to find the information to counter the propoganda.

[lizbud]

250/month?

Don't know where you're getting that figure:



In addition, the "severe cuts" to medicaid shouldn't affect an elderly person, as 1) an elderly isn't under Medcaid, rather, they are under Medicare, and 2) while there are budgetary cuts made under the law to Medicare, there is an increase to fraud fighting efforts, which might see some budgetary relief.

The only "coverage" illegal aliens recieve is emergency room care, which is afforded to anyone. They're illegal, thus they have no legal status, so how could they be legally covered?

While I don't think the law is a panacea by any stretch of the imagination, the outright lies told about it by oppponents are getting tiresome. It's easy to find the information to counter the propoganda.

Watch out LH. You keep posting like that and people are going to start thinking you know what you're talking about.