What next???

[Miss Z]

I don't necessarily agree with his idea but I have to say this, you Americans do realise just how huge the portions they serve here are, right? I still get surprised, even after having lived here for two years.
What is considered a large soda here, is unheard of back in Europe. Even in the same chains - such as Burger King and McDonald's - you order a large soda and it's going to be the size of of U.S. medium soda. I don't know why it's like that though. I don't think anyone at any point banned larger sodas. The need for them just never popped up I guess? I dunno.

I do have to agree with this statement... you certainly get value for money!

Since the drink 'refill' has been mentioned several times on this thread, perhaps it would be more beneficial (i.e. in terms of lowering incidence of obesity) to scrap that. I honestly don't know anywhere over here that does drink refills for free. When I was nine and holidaying in FL, of course I loved the fact I could run down to the hotel restaurant every morning and get a monster sugar rush before I'd even eaten breakfast . As an adult? It's a peculiarity. If I'd grown up with the idea and become accustommed to it, would I really feel like my 'liberty' was infringed upon? As a Brit, not a chance. As an American, I guess I can't say. One thing would be for sure - I'd probably be far less healthy than I am now (and I wouldn't count myself as the image of physical fitness as it stands!) Sometimes, one can be blinkered by an affinity for one's comforts. I respect the American passion for freedoms of all kinds, and can see how well ingrained it is in all American people that I have ever met. That is a wonderful thing; by no means is my opinion meant to cause offence. My stance is that I, personally, find that conservatism stretching to preserve drinks under the 'freedom-to-have-what-we-want' clause a little excessive.

We are more of a nanny state than you guys, no doubt. Sometimes that is indeed a bad thing. We are also an overweight nation.

What do most British obese people blame their weight on? Fatty and sugary foods being cheap, and accessible. They know the dangers of carrying so much weight, and many admit they don't even enjoy the food anymore - they just eat out of habit. And a habit, so they say, is impossible to break when it's staring you in the face most of the time.

Maybe some people need a little nannyin'?!

Again, NOT to flame. I have no sympathy for morbidly obese people hooked up to oxygen machines and unable to reach to put on their own shoes. On no basis is that condition genetic; terrible addiction, yes, genes, no. Addictions can, and should, be addressed before getting to that state. In this country, their care is financed out of the wallet of the taxpayer. We are bitter when we see millions spent on what we deem could have been avoided.

I believe the Delphic phrase is 'Nothing in excess', not that I know the Greek off the top of my head...

Perhaps I am beating around the bush. Our government recently tried to impose a tax on pasties and various other baked goods, depending on their temperature. Banning of supersized drinks seems such a more straightforward idea.

[Lady's Human]

Again, NOT to flame. I have no sympathy for morbidly obese people hooked up to oxygen machines and unable to reach to put on their own shoes. On no basis is that condition genetic; terrible addiction, yes, genes, no. Addictions can, and should, be addressed before getting to that state. In this country, their care is financed out of the wallet of the taxpayer. We are bitter when we see millions spent on what we deem could have been avoided.

Meet a couple of them sometime. It's easy to judge someone at a glance on the street.

Some of them do have issues, genetic or otherwise, that LEAD to the obesity, and not a problem with addiction.

[K9soul]

Even people without a medical condition or "excuse" to be morbidly obese deserve compassion and to not be scorned and judged. Often they are suffering from depression, anxiety, and other extreme stressors that make them feel beaten down and make them give up or reach for the only comforts that they can. On that note, people suffering from addictions usually aren't somehow lesser or weaker or more lazy people, but people with mental disorders, poor support networks, or situations of extreme prolonged grief and stress that get them caught up in a cycle they can't seem to escape.

[Lady's Human]

Just as an aside, carping about American dietary habits is nothing new. Baron von Steuben complained mightily about the diet and preferences of the Colonial soldiers.

[momcat]

Ellie, it looks like Bloomberg stirred up a potential hornets nest with this nonsense about limiting soda and other "high sugar" drinks. On this morning's news it was announced that Mayor Nutter of Philadelphia will be trying to implement the same ban. With all of the serious problems facing our cities, why is THIS any kind of priority?

[pomtzu]

Ellie, it looks like Bloomberg stirred up a potential hornets nest with this nonsense about limiting soda and other "high sugar" drinks. On this morning's news it was announced that Mayor Nutter of Philadelphia will be trying to implement the same ban. With all of the serious problems facing our cities, why is THIS any kind of priority?

I missed that one, Eileen. He needs to worry about the murders in his city everyday, and not worry about the super-sized drinks. I doubt that Christie will be jumping on this bandwagon tho. Wouldn't that be like the pot calling the kettle black???

[momcat]

I missed that one, Eileen. He needs to worry about the murders in his city everyday, and not worry about the super-sized drinks. I doubt that Christie will be jumping on this bandwagon tho. Wouldn't that be like the pot calling the kettle black???

Christie isn't referred to as "Lord of the Ring Dings" for nothing!